NewOldStock Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I recently acquired a copy of Fall Out Boy - From Under The Cork Tree. It's the black FBR109 pressing. I got it on the deck and the surface noise from it is pretty harsh. You can hear it on some of the intros to songs as well as in between tracks. It was sold as NM and I wasn't expecting any noise at all. Is it a common issue with the pressing or have I just got a poor copy? Thanks for any input - really gutted as I've been after it for some time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic_ Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 No issue with my black /1000. It sounds much better than I was expecting. A-Bon and zeb_enjoys_vinyl 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewOldStock Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 No issue with my black /1000. It sounds much better than I was expecting. Cheers Crosley. It's not the deck that's for sure as other stuff I'm currently playing sounds fine. It's not dirty and I can't see any obvious issues - potentially the previous owner played with a crap setup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museummouth Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Black OG sounds awesome. 2xLP sounds like shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic_ Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Cheers Crosley. It's not the deck that's for sure as other stuff I'm currently playing sounds fine. It's not dirty and I can't see any obvious issues - potentially the previous owner played with a crap setup?Does it look worn at all? Generally Crosley and the like will do visible damage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewOldStock Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 Does it look worn at all? Generally Crosley and the like will do visible damage Nothing that's striking. There is a surface mark all the way down side 2 (which I didn't know about until it arrived), but side 1 is the worst for the noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Bon Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 can you upload a video/audio ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewOldStock Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 can you upload a video/audio ?? I'll try now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic_ Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I'll try now... Yeah, that'd help. Maybe this specific album is just a fluke. I had a red/white/black Elephant that sounded like absolute shit but the general consensus was that it sounded pretty good. I can't imagine it would be an issue on a /1000 press, but maybe the plates were worn or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewOldStock Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 Hopefully this will work: http://www.filedropper.com/surfacenoise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewOldStock Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 It's about a minute long but should give you an idea of the noise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Bon Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 have you cleaned it? what record player/stylus are you using?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewOldStock Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 have you cleaned it? what record player/stylus are you using?? It's had a going over with the carbon fiber brush. I'm playing it on a Beogram 1700 with an MMC20S cartridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewOldStock Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 I'm just about to order an Onzow Zerodust to give the stylus a going over too just to ensure it isn't me at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Bon Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 IMO carbon fibre brush will get bigger pieces of crap.. not the finer stuff How old is the cart?? do you have the down force set correctly?? sorry for the question.. id try giving the record a deep clean.. few different ways to do it .. i use Record Reviginizer ... there are other cheaper ways out there though... if that fails your stylus maybe old and need replacing ...or ... the down force has been set too heavy and as a result damaged the stylus which in turn would require a new stylus... or simply and probably the MOST LIKELY the person you bought it from has a crosley or Aldi brand record player and has damaged the surface to which there is no fixing that... i have all 4 variants of the first press of this record and they are ALL perfect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Bon Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I'm just about to order an Onzow Zerodust to give the stylus a going over too just to ensure it isn't me at all. i use a piece of Basotect (Melamine Resin Foam) the same way as their instruction video... it works just as well. i should say though Basotect ... if used incorrectly will damage objects. MoonGel also works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dapeebs Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I have the 2XLP coke bottle and last time I listened to it didn't sound awful. Not terrific, but not as bad as you guys make it out to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewOldStock Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 IMO carbon fibre brush will get bigger pieces of crap.. not the finer stuff How old is the cart?? do you have the down force set correctly?? sorry for the question.. id try giving the record a deep clean.. few different ways to do it .. i use Record Reviginizer ... there are other cheaper ways out there though... if that fails your stylus maybe old and need replacing ...or ... the down force has been set too heavy and as a result damaged the stylus which in turn would require a new stylus... or simply and probably the MOST LIKELY the person you bought it from has a crosley or Aldi brand record player and has damaged the surface to which there is no fixing that... i have all 4 variants of the first press of this record and they are ALL perfect I really appreciate all the suggestions and input. I'm going to spend some time tomorrow (half day at work!) resetting up the down force but I really think it's okay. I'll grab the microscope and check out the needle head too, on naked eye inspection it looks fine... Deep clean of the record is something I will look at. I don't want to go mad on this as it may be (and probably is) as you say, the setup they used has damaged it. I'm going to play it on a friends setup tomorrow and see how it sounds there. Will update once I've given all that a go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Bon Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Good Luck NewOldStock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewOldStock Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 Thanks WildCall. Is the MoonGel you're talking about the same stuff I used to use to dampen the skins on my drums?! http://www.amazon.co.uk/Moongel-Damper-Pads-Pot-4/dp/B0002L52BE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewOldStock Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 Good Luck Well, after quite a long time resetting the tonearm balance and tracking (now perfectly set to 1.5g as recommended) there is still some surface noise on the record. I've check the stylus as best I can, just need further inspection under extreme magnification and it looks okay. Hasn't flattened and isn't covered in gunk. I did however notice that when the desk is spinning it 'bobs' up and down slightly. This seems to be on all records so assume this is the record play. The plate is flat and I'm not really sure what else it could be or whether this is an issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DecayToDeath Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Well, after quite a long time resetting the tonearm balance and tracking (now perfectly set to 1.5g as recommended) there is still some surface noise on the record. I've check the stylus as best I can, just need further inspection under extreme magnification and it looks okay. Hasn't flattened and isn't covered in gunk. I did however notice that when the desk is spinning it 'bobs' up and down slightly. This seems to be on all records so assume this is the record play. The plate is flat and I'm not really sure what else it could be or whether this is an issue? I think that just means the record is slightly warped, and pretty much all records nowadays are, even just a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Bon Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Yes i agree with doman all my lp's have some sort of wobble.. you can sometimes elimanate it with a platter puck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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