jhulud Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 Here is the story. A friend posed this question to me on a trade he is doing and I was at a loss for words to give him an answer. My friend has a 2nd pressing of a band's record. He is trying to make a trade for the 1st pressing of that same record. Well, the guy who has the 1st pressing is cool with getting that 2nd pressing from my friend but wants something in addition to. His pretext is that he's giving up his 1st pressing for my friend's 2nd, so that 1st is "worth" more. (The band and album are really irrelevant to this discussion by the way) Being that he knows I have a bit more experience with trading and record collecting, he asked me if I thought this guy is being unrealistic or is it a valid request. I was stumped. I have never encountered this trading situation nor have ever thought about it. How do you guys and gals feel about something like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunkrock Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 Well I'd say since your friend is initiating the trade and is giving a second pressing for a first he should sweeten the deal a little bit. I'd say nothing to much like $5 or whatever (depending on if the first pressing really is worth more). Because the guy with the first pressing is gaining nothing really whereas your friend would obviously prefer to have a first press and therefore is gaining something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skumbucket Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 if it's truly irrelevant than i guess -- if it was me -- i wouldn't have a problem with throwing in an extra 7" or something, maybe a few dollars. not a whole lot though, if it's essentially the exact same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted October 27, 2007 Author Share Posted October 27, 2007 And that's what I started to think after having posted this. Make a cash offer or a 7" like you guys have suggested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xfedaykinx Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 yeah, id say throwing in a 7" or a not so rare 12" would be good. maybe a few bucks. i think the guy definitely has a valid point. maybe pay for the other guys shipping? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtmanner Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 I think it comes down to how long the period was between pressings (assuming if the first pressing is more than five years before that first it's probably a bit more rare.) From there I kind of look at it in the numbers that were pressed way. Throwing a 7" in for a trade offer always helps, I mean, they're getting TWO items for one. That always sounds promising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xfedupx Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 There's definitely a few factors to consider. Like what Kurtmanner said, how long was it in between pressings, pressing numbers, and if it's on color (since to some people, having it be colored has more value, even if there were more pressed). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted October 27, 2007 Author Share Posted October 27, 2007 Mike...I just had a few chuckles reading the baseball jokes on your blogspot...good stuff man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrd Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 well clearly the 1st pressing is worth more than the 2nd pressing so isnt it obvious you need to equal the worth of what you are trading for sheesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted October 27, 2007 Author Share Posted October 27, 2007 I asked that same question Jeff. Allegedly he has more than one copy and he's missing the 2nd pressing. At this point, I pretty much just told him already what has been suggested here and let's see how it rolls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xfedupx Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Mike...I just had a few chuckles reading the baseball jokes on your blogspot...good stuff man! haha Rad! I knew they were funny when even my mom laughed at them! haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monk0nuggets Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 I pretty much agree with what everyone else already said. Add a 7" or a little cash. Sounds like a sick deal to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadetapplesauce Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 yes. 7" or cash. sweeten the deal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hickey Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 I can't make an honest assessment without knowing what record we're talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adambomb Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 it totally depends what record it is and how readily available each pressing was. I don't mind tossing a few records for one. I've found it easier to work out deals that way. you also have to consider what you had to shell out to get what your trading. Also have to consider if what your parting with is easily replaceable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefan Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Maybe I'm wrong but this is common sense, not etiquette... If he's offended that he was asked to sweeten the deal then he should just decline the trade. If he wants it bad enough he'll sweeten the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest havenhurst Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 why the hell would someone trade a first pressing for a second without getting anything out of it? that's like asking someone to trade you a dollar for fifty cents. and not only that, but they have to pay to ship it to you! great deal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest havenhurst Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Well I'd say since your friend is initiating the trade and is giving a second pressing for a first he should sweeten the deal a little bit. I'd say nothing to much like $5 or whatever (depending on if the first pressing really is worth more). Because the guy with the first pressing is gaining nothing really whereas your friend would obviously prefer to have a first press and therefore is gaining something. even if the 1st pressing isn't worth more, the kid that's being asked to trade off his first pressing is getting nothing but a shipping charge out of the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunkrock Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Well I'd say since your friend is initiating the trade and is giving a second pressing for a first he should sweeten the deal a little bit. I'd say nothing to much like $5 or whatever (depending on if the first pressing really is worth more). Because the guy with the first pressing is gaining nothing really whereas your friend would obviously prefer to have a first press and therefore is gaining something. even if the 1st pressing isn't worth more, the kid that's being asked to trade off his first pressing is getting nothing but a shipping charge out of the deal. I more meant $5 or more depending on if the first pressing is worth more. Also I thought paying for his shipping would go without saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momentumlost Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 As I see it it even being a first or 2nd pressing is irrelevant. The worth should be based on the pressing info (how many were pressed etc). if the 1st press is worth more a 7" should be gravy...and I really like the paying for the other dudes shipping idea. Just my 2 cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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