monk0nuggets Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Sorry to hear about your grandfather. Hope the holidays are awesome! Back to topic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ps Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 I have a question regarding turntables in this price range (Music Hall, Rega, etc.): Do you have to lift the platter and change the speed manually on all of these? That seems like a huge pain in the ass. Just wondering because I'm planning on upgrading sometime in '08. It is kind of a pain in th ass, but I try to listen to a bunch of 45's at a time. The only time it really blows is when you forget what speed a record plays, and then its trial and error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Can I ask a very basic question, what is the advantage of buying a mid or high end turntable? From playing bass for years, I understand amps and speakers, with Ohms, harmonic distortion, frequency response etc, but when it comes to turntables, if it turns it works right? I’m sure there is much more to it than that, however being as naive as I am about turntables I’d like to ask some of you guys about this before talking to some salesperson that just wants my money. I’d be willing to drop some cash on a nice setup, I’d just like to understand the theory behind turntables before buying a good one. BTW, right now I’m running some old AKAI turntable through my computer speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akross Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 I would love to make one of those DIY kits, but every time I touch a soldering iron I cause a whole world of problems... My Power Electronics project was one of the biggest piles of shit ever, but it worked, so I got an A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celebdeath Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Can I ask a very basic question, what is the advantage of buying a mid or high end turntable? From playing bass for years, I understand amps and speakers, with Ohms, harmonic distortion, frequency response etc, but when it comes to turntables, if it turns it works right? I’m sure there is much more to it than that, however being as naive as I am about turntables I’d like to ask some of you guys about this before talking to some salesperson that just wants my money. I’d be willing to drop some cash on a nice setup, I’d just like to understand the theory behind turntables before buying a good one. BTW, right now I’m running some old AKAI turntable through my computer speakers. i'm not going to profess about being an expert here - there are many folks on this board who know exactly what they're talking about - but in my experience, your mid-high end turntable will have less 'noise' output because it is much better build quality. the signal is better quality. a heavy platter is preferrable as is a decent cartridge / stylus. elliptical, diamond head stylus are better. the biggest concern for me is the phenomenom of inner groove distortion which is basically the last song on each side sounding fucked because the groove is so tight and most budget models dont have the ability to track the groove well enough. high end tables are supposed to reduce this effect. believe me man, if you like your sound, you'll HATE inner groove distortion. so make sure you talk to your salesperson at length about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbsauce Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 $80 Radioshack table through $10 JVC speakers from a garage sale and a solid-state Technics tuner (now broken) that's at least 25 years old. Sounds good enough for me. Current set-up after the tuner shit out is the RS table through a Boston sub into PC speakers. I'm not an audiophile so it sounds good enough for me. Still sounds better than CD quality. Saves me money for more vinyl though...for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmartinxx Posted December 23, 2007 Author Share Posted December 23, 2007 I have a question regarding turntables in this price range (Music Hall, Rega, etc.): Do you have to lift the platter and change the speed manually on all of these? That seems like a huge pain in the ass. Just wondering because I'm planning on upgrading sometime in '08. I used to have this guy before the VPI. It's a Music Hall MMF5, which was the same sort of operation. I would put a record down, clamp it, and the realize it was on the wrong speed. It drove me insane. The VPI was worth the extra money, not just for the improved sonics, but functionality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmartinxx Posted December 23, 2007 Author Share Posted December 23, 2007 You can get an outboard speed regulator instead of having to change the speed manually. Kinda like this one http://www.sumikoaudio.net/project/products/speedbox2.htm How does that even work? Do you have to attatch the belt to it somehow? I think it lowers the voltage so the motor spins slower. I think... ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmartinxx Posted December 23, 2007 Author Share Posted December 23, 2007 Once everyone goes to bed I listen to music through a set of Sennheiser HD 490s, they'll get upgraded to Sennheiser HD 600s one of these days when I have $400 to drop on a set of cans. Look into Grado headphones. I have a pair of SR80s and they sound amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Once everyone goes to bed I listen to music through a set of Sennheiser HD 490s, they'll get upgraded to Sennheiser HD 600s one of these days when I have $400 to drop on a set of cans. Look into Grado headphones. I have a pair of SR80s and they sound amazing. Grado makes sweet stuff from what I understand, but I haven't heard them. I'm still a long way off from replacing my headphones, so I'll have plenty of time to look into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willbratt Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Martin, your gear us nuts! That's an awesome amp. How much did it run you, if you don't mind me asking? This is what I'm sporting: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbet Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 I had no idea we had so many audiophiles. I'm curious if you guys ever did double blind tests with your setups. The thing about high end audio systems is while I'll agree they do sound better, 95% of people wouldn't pay the premium for it. I know HUGE music fans who listen to music on their iPods, 128 kbps, with the iPod headphones. Me? Currently I use Beyerdynamict DT-880s ($300 headphones), and I plan on making some DIY speakers ($200 bookshelf ones that sound like $1000 speakers). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borf Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Bang & Olufsen Beogram 1700> PP-999 cheap ass pre> Yamaha HTR-5440> Cerwin Vega AVS SAT4s and SUB8 Sony MDR-7506 cans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmonaut Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 ^ are you the actual borf from DC/B'more, or is that just a reference? Regardless, my current setup is: Harman/Kardon avr 120 receiver Rega p1 B&W 602s/ i'll post pics when my wife gets back from vacation with our digital camera. I'm with Kyle and the others who say that equipment matters. Good sound equipment makes a ton of difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borf Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 haha I wish I could take credit for his work. I actually started using this name years before he began, but Im glad its associated with him - i like his art (ive only seen a couple of em in person though). Dude got busted a couple years ago if i remember correctly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmonaut Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 ^ yeah, he was busted and had to do a lot of community service. i still see his pieces all over DC every day. i love that shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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forgeagain Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 I keep cycling out my turntable. That's the problem with having parents who own a home theater store, a girlfriend who wants you to use her dad's old turntable, and an old Bang + Olufsen turntable that plays fine but acts retarded. I'm sure I'll finally settle on one some day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest vito Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 how are you liking the new table, nick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronniethebear Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 I keep cycling out my turntable. That's the problem with having parents who own a home theater store, a girlfriend who wants you to use her dad's old turntable, and an old Bang + Olufsen turntable that plays fine but acts retarded. I'm sure I'll finally settle on one some day. Is your Bang + Olufsen a Beogram? That's what I've got. It sounds great, but the needles are ridiculously expensive to replace. So I plan on just upgrading to a MusicHall, Rega or something similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nickman Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 how are you liking the new table, nick? fuckin' loving it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmartinxx Posted February 16, 2008 Author Share Posted February 16, 2008 Martin, your gear us nuts! That's an awesome amp. How much did it run you, if you don't mind me asking? Looks like you have a pretty good set up yourself. I bought the amp probably 4 years ago. I paid something like $150 for it on eBay, WITH the original tubes (which all still have a lot of life in them to this day). I spent probably $100 fixing and modifying it. Sounds amazing. The only thing I'd trade it for would be a vintage McIntosh MC275 and C22 preamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borf Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 got the camera goin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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defanatic1758 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 How's that Marantz? Thinking about getting one on ebay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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