robotnerd Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 so both of these labels are shear shadows of what they once were... so here's the question, who was better in their heyday? when they were really putting out great stuff a lot? revelation: judge gorilla biscuits quicksand youth of today underdog sensefield texas is the reason kiss it goodbye in my eyes elliott victory: earth crisis integrity strife deadguy cause for alarm snapcase warzone grey area shutdown buried alive blood for blood personally... they've both put out a lot of records i love... and it's tough to decide... but i think more revelation records had a hand in my hardcore upbringing... i think they get my vote. plus, while they haven't put out a TON of amazing things in recent years, they haven't turned into the total shitfest victory has (aside from darkest hour and btbam) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lechevre Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 Eh...I don't know. I personally have a thing against victory, but I'm not to familiar with the other label... draw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xfedaykinx Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 that is one tough question. if i take your logic, i grew up more on deadguy, strife, earth crisis and snapcase than any rev band [until shai hulud]. so i suppose id have to say victory *gasp!* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbananagrabber Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 revelation, hands down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrc Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 i grew up listening to more of the victory bands, but totally agree that they have turned into garbage (besides the DH and a couple others.) I hate to say it, but i guess Victory gets my vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicyclepirate Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 I'd have to say Revelation definitely was a better label overall, although my first hardcore cd I remember was Strife and I still listen to Bloodlet's entheogen. Even at the time Victory was putting out good releases, they were putting out terrible things like Hi Fi and the Roadburners, One Life Crew, and Doughnuts. Revelation at least was more consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robotnerd Posted August 29, 2007 Author Share Posted August 29, 2007 I'd have to say Revelation definitely was a better label overall, although my first hardcore cd I remember was Strife and I still listen to Bloodlet's entheogen. Even at the time Victory was putting out good releases, they were putting out terrible things like Hi Fi and the Roadburners, One Life Crew, and Doughnuts. Revelation at least was more consistent. yeah, and let's not forget electric frankenstein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skumbucket Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 rev rev rev! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flood Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 gorilla biscuits < than HC band brummel ever dealt with. bonus points for being from new haven advantage = REV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robotnerd Posted August 30, 2007 Author Share Posted August 30, 2007 gorilla biscuits < than HC band brummel ever dealt with.bonus points for being from new haven advantage = REV you mean "gb >" ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flood Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 yeah yeah... its been a long day. you know what i meant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xfedaykinx Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 if revelation is the jews, then shai hulud is their christ. making revelation christian? i think you get my point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadetapplesauce Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 rev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benchwarmer Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 rev a lation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hickey Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 I'd have to say Revelation definitely was a better label overall, although my first hardcore cd I remember was Strife and I still listen to Bloodlet's entheogen. Even at the time Victory was putting out good releases, they were putting out terrible things like Hi Fi and the Roadburners, One Life Crew, and Doughnuts. Revelation at least was more consistent. yeah, and let's not forget electric frankenstein. Don't talk smack on EF!!! Electric Frankenstein is amazing! And, no, I'm not kidding, look at my record list. Regardless, I'd still go with Victory. There were only two or three Revelation bands that I was into back then. Victory was the hit: Strife, Snapcase, Integrity...Any one here have that California Takeover record? One of the best ever... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbypuckett Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 If Rev. only put out the GB records I'd still pick them as the winner. Once you factor in Texas is the Reason and Quicksand I don't even understand how their could be an argument. Early-Victory put out some solid records, but I think Rev's discography will be held to a higher standard down the line...especially since Victory has become a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottheisel Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Rev's '90s roster (Gameface, TITR, Elliott, Quicksand) completely blew my mind wide open when I was a young teen. I think I own maybe three records from Victory's '90s roster (Refused and a few Snapcase records). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amsterdamned Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 I'd have to go Rev, but not by a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 if revelation is the jews, then shai hulud is their christ. making revelation christian? i think you get my point... Shai Fuckin' Hulud! Hell yeah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dim Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Revelation definetly. I think the only bands on victory I liked in the 90's was shutdown and catch 22. In my opinion I think victory should have made some sort of imprint label for their non-hardcore stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 im extremely biased in this vote but rev without a doubt. definitely one of my favorite labels. the first 9 releases are probably the best to start a label with the exception of dischord. warzone, sick of it all, gorilla biscuits, side by side, youth of today, bold, chain of strength, judge, inside out, supertouch, burn, into another, farside, underdog, civ, texas is the reason, ignite, quicksand, battery, in my eyes, nerve agents, damnation ad, fastbreak, elliott, the movielife, curl up and die, shai hulud, on the might of princes, shook ones, sinking ships, down to nothing, gracer, memorial, living hell, end of a year, capital definitely returning to form. all of the current bands are solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 I used to be a Victory whore back in the day...mostly in the early to late 90's...then their roster started to really just let me down. All the bands did not stand out and were very blah. But I have to agree that Rev has had more consistency with their releases and quality of music their bands have been putting out. If forced to vote...I'll say Revelation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronniethebear Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 Texas Is The Reason and Elliott tip the scales in Revelation's favor for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornwell Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 relelation put out gcf. advantage - rev. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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