xlovecolouredx Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 this thing ever happend in thailand couple time. the worst is two pit bulls got mad in the night and killed the other dogs in the house before kill the old lady and young baby, mom and son of the owner. in the end, the owner killed both pit bulls.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanukichu Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 You're kind of just ridiculously ill informed. The only reason you hear so much about pit bull attacks is because of assholes who breed them for fighting. The media blew everything out of proportion and now these dogs have a bad rap. Same with rotties as well. As I said in my other post, if the breed of a dog was anything else the breed would probably be an arbitrary thing in the news article or left out of the article completely. How am I misinformed? All I said was the ones I (me, myself) hear about and the ones I see on the news that are really bad or deadly usually involve pitts. Im not stating any statistics about dog attacks. Just going on my time that Ive been alive, the majority of dog attacks Ive heard about involve a pitt bull. Yes, pitts get a bad rap but they are capable of killing a human. Just like any other big, strong dog like them. Most other dogs do not kill people. Read the parts I bolded. I think you missed them the first time. Pit bulls are also not large breed dogs. An American Pit Bull Terrier male is only 24 inches average. That's not a large dog. That's a medium sized dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanukichu Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 I dont think a single person here is saying the mother isnt at fault But then why make a big deal about what the dog breed is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesomexloveus Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Please explain to me how this dog will kill me on a bad day? Unless I am opened up on an operating table and my aorta has just been sutured back together using only peanut butter and one of these monsters stumbles in while I am left alone, this dog is never going to kill me. I made a reference to context because your argument was that pit bulls rate better than other dogs in temperament tests, while completely failing to mention that the 16% of pits with bad temperament account for over half of reported attacks (http://www.dogbitelaw.com/Dog%20Attacks%201982%20to%202006%20Clifton.pdf) I don't debate that ultimately the responsibility rests on the shitty owners the majority of the time, but how many people need to get injured to prove a point. When you say things as simple as "Pit bulls are very friendly and were bred not to bite humans", while ignoring the fact that most reported attacks are by pit bulls, you are just fueling the cycle of shitty owners who believe their pit bull will never hurt anyone. ok, that thing is not a dog (imo). and here's how it kills you (i can play the ridiculous game, too): dog bites you with its tiny, razor sharp teeth. puncture wounds get a staph infection. boom, you die without proper treatment. and what is this; selective reading day on VC? i never said they were bred not to bite humans; that's a nonsensical statement to make. yes, many reports covered by the media ARE pit bulls, or at least dogs reported to be pit bull, or 'mixed' pits. and if you would have read the last 3 or so posts that i've made, you would have read that i said that owners of ANY dog need to be vigilant and held accountable for their actions. like nicole said, do NOT let your kid alone with your dog unsupervised. that's inadvisable regardless of breed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesomexloveus Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 How am I misinformed? All I said was the ones I (me, myself) hear about and the ones I see on the news that are really bad or deadly usually involve pitts. Im not stating any statistics about dog attacks. Just going on my time that Ive been alive, the majority of dog attacks Ive heard about involve a pitt bull. Yes, pitts get a bad rap but they are capable of killing a human. Just like any other big, strong dog like them. Most other dogs do not kill people. Read the parts I bolded. I think you missed them the first time. Pit bulls are also not large breed dogs. An American Pit Bull Terrier male is only 24 inches average. That's not a large dog. That's a medium sized dog. this. most labs are bigger than pits. they may be muscular, but they're not large/tall in stature at all. these people thinking pit bulls are huge only solidifies my belief that they don't really know much of anything about the breed at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtw88 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Apparently it is selective reading day because I actually got that fact about being bred not to bite humans out of the link you posted for me to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesomexloveus Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Apparently it is selective reading day because I actually got that fact about being bred not to bite humans out of the link you posted for me to read. i said that I never made that statement. and no, i am not an expert on pits or other bully breeds by any means, but i have read up on them, been exposed to them, and am probably more well informed about them than the majority of people on this board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 How am I misinformed? All I said was the ones I (me, myself) hear about and the ones I see on the news that are really bad or deadly usually involve pitts. Im not stating any statistics about dog attacks. Just going on my time that Ive been alive, the majority of dog attacks Ive heard about involve a pitt bull. Yes, pitts get a bad rap but they are capable of killing a human. Just like any other big, strong dog like them. Most other dogs do not kill people. Read the parts I bolded. I think you missed them the first time. Pit bulls are also not large breed dogs. An American Pit Bull Terrier male is only 24 inches average. That's not a large dog. That's a medium sized dog. If a dog attack is brutal its going to get reported on. Doesnt matter what kind of dog does the attacking. Just so happens the ones you hear about are with pitts a lot of the time. I understand pitt attacks get made into a bigger deal than with most dogs because of people breeding them to fight. Put it in whatever size category you want but any dog thats big enough or strong enough to successfully attack a human at will is way more dangerous than a dog you can fight off. Thats all Im saying. Not every dog can kill a person and the ones that can are way more dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtw88 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Eh, I'm over it all. If you are willing to consistently ignore the unbiased statistics and research that I am providing while posting your own from pro pit websites, and then chastise me for using statements from the links you provided me, then there is nothing I can say to you to lift your emotional veil on the subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesomexloveus Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Read the parts I bolded. I think you missed them the first time. Pit bulls are also not large breed dogs. An American Pit Bull Terrier male is only 24 inches average. That's not a large dog. That's a medium sized dog. If a dog attack is brutal its going to get reported on. Doesnt matter what kind of dog does the attacking. Just so happens the ones you hear about are with pitts a lot of the time. I understand pitt attacks get made into a bigger deal than with most dogs because of people breeding them to fight. Put it in whatever size category you want but any dog thats big enough or strong enough to successfully attack a human at will is way more dangerous than a dog you can fight off. Thats all Im saying. Not every dog can kill a person and the ones that can are way more dangerous. newfoundlands: menaces to people everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesomexloveus Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Eh, I'm over it all. If you are willing to consistently ignore the unbiased statistics and research that I am providing while posting your own from pro pit websites, and then chastise me for using statements from the links you provided me, then there is nothing I can say to you to lift your emotional veil on the subject. obviously not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanukichu Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Read the parts I bolded. I think you missed them the first time. Pit bulls are also not large breed dogs. An American Pit Bull Terrier male is only 24 inches average. That's not a large dog. That's a medium sized dog. If a dog attack is brutal its going to get reported on. Doesnt matter what kind of dog does the attacking. Just so happens the ones you hear about are with pitts a lot of the time. I understand pitt attacks get made into a bigger deal than with most dogs because of people breeding them to fight. Put it in whatever size category you want but any dog thats big enough or strong enough to successfully attack a human at will is way more dangerous than a dog you can fight off. Thats all Im saying. Not every dog can kill a person and the ones that can are way more dangerous. That's exactly what I said, so why generalize an entire breed of dogs? You're not going to hear about every single/majority of pit bulls who DON'T attack people. Basically what I'm getting at and asking people is why people are making a big fucking stink over the breed of dog that attacked the child, and not the real problem which is people who; A-don't know how to take care of their child, and B-people who don't know how to take care of their dogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesomexloveus Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 i never denied the fact that a majority of reported attacks are involving pit bulls, or mixed breed dogs sometimes mistaken for pits. another fact is that there's no accurate statistics involving all dog attacks, as many go unreported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
controlthebleeding Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Funny story. My friend's (heather) Pitt bull is super protective of their 9 month old. No one except the immediate family can get in within 5 feet of their child unsupervised. I learned that the hard way. Normally he's in a good mood. he plays and jumps on you and sits on your lap.. etc etc. well one day i went to the restroom and decided to go check on her as she was waking up from a nap and crying. I went in to their room to go check on her in her crib and he runs in and jumps on me, pushing me away and corners me between the bed and the crib. i was scared for my life until my friend walked in and told him to heal. he was fine after that.. fuck i was scared and almost shit myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanukichu Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 If a dog attack is brutal its going to get reported on. Doesnt matter what kind of dog does the attacking. Just so happens the ones you hear about are with pitts a lot of the time. I understand pitt attacks get made into a bigger deal than with most dogs because of people breeding them to fight. Put it in whatever size category you want but any dog thats big enough or strong enough to successfully attack a human at will is way more dangerous than a dog you can fight off. Thats all Im saying. Not every dog can kill a person and the ones that can are way more dangerous. newfoundlands: menaces to people everywhere. Murderous beasts. Any large dog should be outlawed. This is also a large vicious killer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesomexloveus Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 newfoundlands: menaces to people everywhere. Murderous beasts. Any large dog should be outlawed. This is also a large vicious killer. DO WANT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkrudeboy Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Damn this threads all over the place... Technically any dog can be dangerous and kill you all it has to do is get a clean shot at your neck. Now from a realistic standpoint neither one of my chihuahuas is going to be able to take me down and kill me. If I came face to face with a rottie or a pit bull, hell even my 40lb of muscle chow chow that I had you can damn well be sure I'd pissing my pants scared cuz I may be toast. Considering the fact that this happened to a 6mo old child, any dog could have done some very serious damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcamps Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 a cat would never do that. /thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmythescumbag Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Point proven...thanks. Look, I don't have a problem with you. Well, at least I didn't until you said I look like a fucking idiot. I just can't stand it when people care more about an animal's well being than that of a human. There is something seriously wrong with the way the Western world thinks about dogs. I can't believe anyone would hear this story, or any of the others that happen on a constant basis and think the dogs are the ones we need to look out for. How many of these kinds of horrific preventable nightmares need to happen before people start to wake up? I agree with you to a certain extent, I just think saying people who see things differently "deserve to have something bad happen to them" is a bit of a stretch. Either way, this story is fucked. I have a pit, and even though she is fairly docile, I would not leave a child (hell, even a 8 or 9 year old) unattended with her. A wise man once said: if a big animal had the chance it wouldn't take another glance....IT WOULD EAT YOU UP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siphon123 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Poor kid. I hope whatever can be done will be done to help him. The article says no charges yet, I hope someone gets charged. Why would you ever leave a 6 month old baby strapped in it's car seat on the floor in a room with two pitbulls, or any dog for that matter, unattended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattisr1984 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 so yeah, id have to imagine this was a pretty awkward 911 phone call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamlikesmusic Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 a cat would never do that./thread. But why the fuck would someone want a cat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
controlthebleeding Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 a cat would never do that./thread. But why the fuck would someone want a cat? i chuckled at this one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmythescumbag Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 But why the fuck would someone want a cat? i chuckled at this one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raistlinn Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Cat Vs. Dog is the oldskool Mac. vs. Windows. just get a penguin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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