¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 that does signal the end of mourneau though yep, but powerful 1B are a dime a dozen it seems... any power hitter can convert to 1B. a star catcher is rare, worth every penny in my mind, especially since he can just convert to DH or 1B towards the end of that contract if his knees/back cause more problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgoodcore Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 The whole deal with the Twins could change if the new field helps them revenue wise. I could see them keeping both M&M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selfreliable Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 They already signed Morneau long term before 08 I believe for 6 years, so he is with the team till 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 They already signed Morneau long term before 08 I believe for 6 years, so he is with the team till 2014. nice! I was not aware of that! twins are my AL team. love 'em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selfreliable Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 They already signed Morneau long term before 08 I believe for 6 years, so he is with the team till 2014. nice! I was not aware of that! twins are my AL team. love 'em The Twins are really making efforts the last few years to play with the top teams in the AL. A few busts in trades and Liriano not panning out is all thats held them back. They counted on alot in the Santana trade none of which has given them much return at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstar71888 Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 the Twins should easily win the AL Central this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew13 Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 so was thinking about catchers in the HOF. shoe-ins would be Piazza, I-Rod, and Mauer most likely. but what about Jason Kendall? 1907 games caught, .290 career avg, 2000+ hits, and still active. plus his recent years have drug his numbers down a bit from his peak, but for a 5-10 year period he was the best catcher in baseball arguably and came back from one of the most horrific injuries i have ever seen live on tv. he has always been almost criminally unappreciated around the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flood Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 im bummed that Posada will end up short, unless he has a couple really strong years.... but he's got a decent resume, 5 All Star Games, 5 WS rings, and really solid Offensive numbers from a catcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgoodcore Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Kendall isn't a hall-of-famer. He's just not. He's a very good player but he's not the best of the best and he never scared anyone, ever. If Mauer continues he'll be in the HOF but now, not yet. Posada will make it at the very least because he won a ton of rings and he played in New York and I think people remember him being better than he might have actually been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstar71888 Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 I can't think of one catcher (other than the ones who have been mentioned) who has good enough numbers to make it. The only candidate I could see possibly making a push (and this is still a stretch), would be Victor Martinez, if he became a full time catcher and keeps putting up numbers like he did the second half of last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selfreliable Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 If Jim Rice can make it in, Posada will make it in. I dont think that he deserves to be in though. Watching him through his career I was never worried at all when he came to the plate and never worried about his arm hurting a team. Yeah he went to 5 all stars, but v-tek should have gone to a few of those, having NYC behind you voting helps. That all being said, he will make it. He lasted a long time at a tough position, has the 5 rings to help his cause and the 2000 hits at catcher will be enough to put him over. Besides I-Rod and Piazza, I cant think of any other of his or this generation that will make it as Maur is still too early to tell. He is just entering his prime 27 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgoodcore Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 If Jim Rice can make it in... I hate that logic, honestly. Not sure you like it either. I think people need to get past it so badly for baseball to retain respect for its Hall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flood Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 i think you have to view players based on their position, in their era. Jim Rice is a hall of famer... dude was a scary hitter, and a perennial all-star. Posada is borderline, much like Don Mattingly (who would have been a shoe-in if the back injury didn't sideline the 2nd half of his career) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgoodcore Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 i think you have to view players based on their position, in their era.Jim Rice is a hall of famer... dude was a scary hitter, and a perennial all-star. Posada is borderline, much like Don Mattingly (who would have been a shoe-in if the back injury didn't sideline the 2nd half of his career) I agree with the era thing. Not sure All-Star appointments do much for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forgeagain Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 You guys are crazy. Posada is in. First ballot. Career .277/.379/.480 line (from a CATCHER - these numbers are HUGE) 15 year career Average or better defensively pretty much throughout his career 5 world series rings Yankee Still playing and producing - get those HR/RBI/etc. numbers boosted the next few years If you wouldn't vote for him, you're crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 i would be interested to see how many double plays Posada has hit into in his career, especially last year and inning ending double plays. following the Yankees last year there were two things that were almost certain, John Sterling would come up with a stupid nickname just for the sake of hearing his own voice and Posada, if the situation presented itself, would hit into an inning ending double play. Cano was up there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share Posted March 23, 2010 Posada couldnt have hurt the team too much, I mean they did win the WS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 yeah but a lot of those walk off wins came to be because Posada had a chance to drive in a run but grounded into an inning ending double play by swinging at crap he shouldn't have on the first pitch earlier in the game. it was almost like clock work. obviously in the long run it didn't mean much but he killed plenty of rallies which is frustrating to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis Posted March 24, 2010 Author Share Posted March 24, 2010 Yea i dont know the stats on that or anything but I do remember Posada and Cano hitting into a lot of double plays. Seems like most catchers would hit into a lot of double plays tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstar71888 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 i meant to add in my post that i couldn't think of anyone ELSE who hasn't been mentioned. Posada, I-Rod, and Piazza are pretty much definitely in. Mauer is a good possibility, V-Mart is a long shot but a possibility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 if Mauer continues playing as a catcher and putting up similar numbers he will get in the hall no doubt. but he's only been in the league 5 years, it's a bit early to be throwing out HOF talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 if Mauer continues playing as a catcher and putting up similar numbers he will get in the hall no doubt. but he's only been in the league 5 years, it's a bit early to be throwing out HOF talk. agreed. career .326 hitter so far, thats impressive for a catcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis Posted March 24, 2010 Author Share Posted March 24, 2010 Shit, career .326 is impressive for anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynamitekid Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 the Twins should easily win the AL Central this year I wouldnt say easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediocore Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Posada makes the HOF. He's right on the cusp from a numbers standpoint; his position, rings and playing in NY puts him over the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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