jayteamanis

We're getting this all organized right now. My daughter is making out the slips of paper with everyone's number and username on them. She's quite disturbed btw at a lot of your usernames. She is having the hardest time with yocaseycasey. She keeps repeating it and chuckling.

Count me in for Pokecore, though I'm still laughing at them allowing MP3s for source files. I kinda wanna make some gag 7"s for friends, label them "Brand New demos" or something and actually have Never Gonna Give You Up on it... on both sides.

I think it's pretty arbitrary to what kind of "collector" you are.  I know a few people actually detest the idea of "collecting" vinyl.  I didn't "collect" CDs as a kid, you know?  For a lot of people, this is just their preferred medium for music.  And there's no harm in that, obviously.  Many people - myself included - would say that the world would be a better place if every release, new and old, could remain in print on just standard black wax.  Nothing would be special or rare... and subsequently, neither expensive or overpriced.  There are tons of albums, out there, that I'd love to just own a single copy of.  No bells, whistles, or brag rights necessary.
 
But at the same time, where's the fun?  You can't deny how incredible a properly constructed vinyl package is.  A crisp gatefold jacket with spot gloss finish, colored inserts, and 180 gram vinyl tinted to match the album art or packaging: there's nothing quite like it.  At that point, I think, it becomes more than just tossing the record on for the sake of music.  It's those prestigious packages and alluring variants that let the listener immerse themselves in the album.  I don't know about you, but I've definitely purchased an album on vinyl - despite having owned it for a while, digitally - and fallen in love with it all over again, thanks to extensive liner notes, elaborate packaging, and just an overall sense of "completeness" while revisiting the music on wax.  Nothing really compares.
 
But, unfortunately, it's not practical or financially possible to retain that quality for each and every press of a record.  And even limiting colorways and variants to a first or second press, one must note that there is only a finite amount of copies to obtain.  So I think it becomes a balancing act of sorts.  Do you want a product that's more or less just the music you pay for, that's readily available to the world?  Or do you want something that's over-the-top-awesome, albeit limited?  Surely, there's a healthy medium.
 
Deathwish, in my opinion, nails this dilemma.  They often release their fair share of limited and deluxe versions of albums, while [usually] allowing a cheaper, standard copy to remain in print after the dust has settled.  Me, personally; I enjoy the scramble for their limited releases.  I get a kick out of vying for rarer variants or certain colors, and there's always a bit of a thrill when "competing" for pre-orders.  Seeing who's got the quickest trigger finger, and what everyone else ends up with.  Is it all the same music, at the end of the day?  Yes.  Does any color sound better than another?  Of course not.  So in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really matter.  But the variants add some spice to life, in my opinion.  I can't imagine Converge's latest album being pressed on 7,000 copies of black, standard weight vinyl.  The collective "rush" to pre-order would be pathetic in comparison.  And gone would be the appeal of trading colors, completing a collection, or appreciating individual copies.  Everyone would - to no one else's surprise - receive a black copy.  Which would still be in stock.
 
I do agree that vinyl has regained enough popularity that limited pressings have become rather bothersome.  If a label knows that there's a great demand for an album or a repress, it doesn't make any sense to only press 1,000 copies.  [Assuming they can, indeed, afford to press more.  Large labels like EVR have no excuse to release timid amounts of Circa Survive represses, for example.]  That simply fuels the rarity-factor you mentioned, which then creates a headache while trying to own just one copy of an album for leisure listening.
 
As far as the final part of your post goes... I can't speak for everyone, but I've absolutely purchased records at retail price when I was "financially comfortable", and then sold them for considerable profit - years down the road - when unexpected expenses arose.  Hardly anything I can foresee, you know?  There's a gentleman selling four variants of Coheed & Cambria's IKSOSE:3 in the Sale forum, here at VC.  He's looking at $1,100 for the four of them, with a day left on the auctions.  I'm sure the dude needs the money, plain and simple.  And I'm sure he couldn't have predicted that need for the money when he bought those four copies, years back.
 
If you're splurging on rare variants and selling them a month later, though, that's another story.  I'd say that falls into the financial irresponsibility that you suggested.  And I've seen it happen, for sure.

Sold! Real bummed that I didn't trade for the catapult though... Should have PM'd me.

Without starting a riot....
 
I'm kind of sad this is coming out... From what I can remember, speaking with various members involved in the Format group, they were holding this vinyl re-issue, along with many other things (such as an official release for the song "Swans") for when the Format reunited....
 
Seeing this just means that they aren't getting back together for a long time... I highly doubt Nate will stop with fun. given all the success recently.

my buddy's brother won the nimrod contest (kickflipped into a half pipe, shattering his ankle) so we all got to meet them backstage after the show.  seriously was blown away how nice bj and mike were to the fans (tre was not not nice, but he was a weirdo haha).  they all signed tons of shit for my teenage self, some of which i still have.  I couldn't have possibly had a better experience, it's probably a lot of why i always have and continue to love the band.  
 
no point, just a fun story about a teenage dream come true for a gd fan.  all these represses are bringing up a lot of nostalgia, it's been awesome reliving a lot of that shit!

What I like to do is get a molten vinyl blob and use a rolling pin to make it the right size. You want to be quick though so it doesn't harden on you. Then I put this on my record player, put the needle on it and turn it on. Then I place my computer speakers right next to the needle and turn the volume way up. Then I gently push the tone arm to the center of the record as the music is playing. The vibrations from the speakers move the needle and "cut" these songs into the record. It works perfect every time and sounds great. Good luck!

The Format > Fun.

Bah, you guys are a bunch of morons. End of story. My elitism in this thread will come from the fact that very few of the people on this forum can think rationally. You don't have to sell your first born to get a decent rig. You don't have to even spend $500 bucks. But you guys have to take it to such extremes.
The guys on the Steve Hoffman forums don't listen to Brand New, you guys don't give a crap about the sound you subject yourselves to, maybe there should be a third forum that can reach this middle ground. Anyhow, I treasure the Hoffman forums. It's nice to be in the presence of people who care too much rather than too little.
I tried to start a discussion on the quality of a product with people who actually could own it and give some insight on their experiences with it. But then I remembered that most of you collect color variants and frame your records, when you're not posting in a thread about shoplifting from urban outfitters.
You guys have become a self-fulfilling joke. Peace out homies.

Just went to their online store. Does any band have worse shirt and merchandise design than Blink 182?
Makes me want to wear a 21st Century Breakdown shirt.

I wonder why they decided to release this now instead of on the 21st, when the Mayans had originally planned. Seriously though, the effects on Mark's voice make him sound worse than Tom, and that's saying something.

Nope, FBR seemingly just delivered nicely in exchange for their ridiculous shipping rates.

Who tabs in roman numerals?

We're going down, down in an ea%$# rou! ♫

Oh man and since Casey=theusedguy that means he's fighting with himself. And people don't believe dissociative identity disorder is real.
I'm sorry for that psychology joke, I couldn't resist.

i like this story

American Idiot was cool when it came out cause it was something completely new for Green Day. Plus it actually had some really good songs on it. 21st Century seemed like they just wanted to do American Idiot part 2 but they used up all their good songs the first time around. If they would have made 21st Century like 10-12 songs it still would have sucked but not been nearly as bad and bloated as the 18 song album they actually released. It was tough to even get all the way thru that album. Same goes for Uno, Dos and Tre. If they just would have taken the the 10-12 best songs from all 3 albums and just released one album it probably would have been pretty damn good. Instead its just 3 mediocre to bad albums. Nothing will ever top Dookie though, that record is pretty much a flawless pop punk album.

For pure flipping purposes (lol) I wish I'd bought 20 copies of Relient K's "mmhmm" when I remember them being available through their store for $10/a pop. As I recall, they were actually having trouble selling off their stock of those back in the day. Amazing.

I swear to fucking god....I will shake it up, if you dare to listen...

I'm so thankful I discovered this board, so I know about stuff like this. However, my wallet probably doesn't hold the same sentiment...