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There is a huge difference between opening a pack of cards and getting a duplicate, and ordering 2 copies of the same record to flip one.

@futurekills
I guess you could call selling things at market value gauging my peers, but that's not how I view it. So I know I am not going to change any of your minds on the topic of flipping but I have also never hid that I do sell some records. So here are my thoughts/justifications on it and you can read them to understand me, or just dislike me more:
1. I'm married, have a daughter, a mortgage and a decent job that pays the bills (but doesn't make me rich.) So with the income from our jobs we do not make enough money to buy the amount of records I like to get. I could get out of the hobby, I could budget down my spending, or I could find a way to make some extra money so that I can keep enjoying spinning records every night. Well as already stated I choose to "flip" and I have been very up front about it. I could make FS posts every couple months about how I spent too much or an emergency came up or what ever other excuse I see on threads, but I like to be proactive and put money in the account in advance instead of scrambling later.
2. I enjoy my records first, and sell second. I own thousands of records and spin them often, my daughter every night has me play her favorite songs on the jukebox. I have a site where I post about my favorite new music and am very vocal on various social media sites spreading the word. Of the records I own I do sell between 2-10 of them each month through discogs/amazon/ebay, I have the same name in all places and don't hide it. Almost everything I sell I had previously promoted and helped sales however I could. Take my 2 most recent sales: Pokemon bootleg record, I posted exactly where and how to buy it despite every other site hiding this info. IF you go to my site now you can still find this. Prior to that was The Maine's Forever Halloween, which was my favorite record of 2014. I told everyone to buy that record because it was amazing, and it sat in stock for months. During that time I bought a couple extra copies, some as presents and a few to sell.
3. As a kid who grew up in a baseball card shop, it's very obvious Records are like any other hobby. You get as much of what you like and can afford. You trade when you have doubles or when your friends can work out a deal. Some times you get a good deal, and then move it when it's hot. You have favorites that won't ever leave your procession regardless of it's worth. And you find people that collect differently than you, and instead of seeing your similarities you squabble over the small things instead of rejoicing that there are other like you out in the world. Because I know if try talking to my non-collector friends about this stuff, their eyes just glaze over.

no, i don't, actually.
 
between everything i've seen from the mondo thread, your FS/eBay/Discogs excursions, and the ETR thread, i thought it was public knowledge that you gouge your peers for rare releases. that's been the foundation of why people don't take too kindly to your posts around here. from there, pile on the fact that you support a label where the owner has been known to gouge and manipulate their customers to pad their wallet and stack up their personal record collection, and baby, you've got a stew going!

y i k e s
 
 
i have no dog in this fight, but i thought it was pretty clear (and often verbalized) why people have issues with stl_ben

Pretty sure you have no idea what my thoughts are on politics as I don't post about them here. But as someone who lives a few miles from Ferguson...I think our political views on this are pretty similar. As far as "stop being a shit person" I think you may need to be more specific. See I'm trying to work things out and talk through problems, name calling doesn't help that.

I hold no grudges towards you Ben, if you're talking about something I'm interested in I'll gladly join in the conversation. Just so happens you're talking about something that annoys me a lot of the time soooooo... I'll keep disagreeing with you when I do if that's ok.

stl_ben sent me a message to try and get me to stop downvoting him

stl_ben sent me a message to try and get me to stop downvoting him

stl_ben sent me a message to try and get me to stop downvoting him

stl_ben sent me a message to try and get me to stop downvoting him

Oops. That's easy enough to fix. What else will take to end the "fued"

Hahahahaha. This mother fucker.

To: Blade, Aqua, Shelby.
I'm trying to make a public plea since you all participate in this thread. Can we please discuss whatever the problem is. The Internet is full of hate, there is no need to fill it with more of the same. We can keep spiraling and down voting and taking jabs at each other....or we can try to discuss the problem and move on. I'm not saying at the end of the day we have to be best friends, but can't we at least work to end the nonsense that we are all just spiraling downward with?

Ok whichever blade it was. Thanks. Just tired of topics about music derailing about nonsense and trying to right some of the wrong I created. I know Agua doesn't post here much, but he doesn't reply to PMs and figured small talk was the easiest place to post this (a new thread for it would have been troll chaos.)

stl_ben sent me a message to try and get me to stop downvoting him

he's now mad at me cause i talked about it on here instead of replying to his message. called me immature, which i am be. but i'd rather be immature than a flipper or defender of scum.

Like how can you defend etr for real

he's now mad at me cause i talked about it on here instead of replying to his message. called me immature, which i am be. but i'd rather be immature than a flipper or defender of scum.

Like how can you defend etr for real

stl_ben sent me a message to try and get me to stop downvoting him

I'm not saying other releases don't have 24 tests, I'm saying this one does not. 
Does what give me pleasure?  Stating that everything that comes out of ETR isn't trash and that Ross may not be the anti-christ?
Does complaining about everything he does give you "sexual pleasure" because you guys complain about him WAY more than I defend him.
Sure I could ignore all the complaints, but you guys could just as easily ignore what he releases.
If you don't like him or his releases or his practices then there is no one forcing you to stalk his instagram / facebook / ex-girlfriends to find every little detail about his business, you just click unfollow and move on.
Consider this post my unfollow and move on, I won't try to argue the points any further with you.  I will ignore this thread, and just post relevant data in a separate new threads for releases.  Just please don't drag this shit into those threads and I will in return not post in this one.
 
but PS. I would kill for a Darkwing Duck record from any label that wants to release it.

Just because they start at .99 doesn't me the prices aren't getting jacked up.  They are just doing bids instead of buy it now.  The prices will still go up, and if those bands were anywhere near as big as Maroon 5 they would could up to similar prices.  Also that label made 20 test pressings, thats so they can sell more of each one.  There is not 20 test pressings for the Maroon 5 record (I believe the label got 5).  

Please stop.

What label isn't jacking up the prices of test pressings?  Supply v Demand.  

+1,000

it'll be round and have stuff engraved on it

it'll be round and have stuff engraved on it