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record on a flat surface (in inner sleeve), a blanket or something soft for protection, a 45-pound gym plate. i had a record come warped as shit once, like a goddamn pringle, and this did the trick. books ain't gonna cut it unless you have a couple dozen college textbooks

incredible gif. thank you i think if i had to ask my wife (clinical psychologist) what she thought, based on all of this, i feel like it would be something along the lines of: if your beef with your brother is so deep-seated that you can't peacefully coexist, you will probably see anything that resembles taking sides as an affront. as in, steve and andy doing what's best for the band—which means supporting keith, but also supporting jordan—the latter of which, to keith, is an act of betrayal, no matter how benign. just seems like a toxic sibling relationship. but i can also see keith is EXTREMELY sensitive and vulnerable, because when i read the band's statement about keith leaving tour, honestly my first thought was, "that's dope that he is prioritizing his mental health and the band is supporting him." it didn't cross my mind for a second there was something wrong! i just thought keith needed a breather and the band was on board. it would've set a great example tbh. we all need boundaries. but he came out swinging instead, and the writing was on the wall from that moment forward edit: also i am pretty, uhh, unreceptive, i suppose, of people talking about "their" truth. that's not my cup of tea!

i'm still catching up on this thread, so forgive me for double-posting if i end up doing so, but just wanted to say when all this shit went down i was immediately on andy's side, no joke. like, i don't know andy, but i've met him a few times after shows, we've all seen the shit happens dvd and his interviews, and if you ever asked me to doubt this man's integrity, i couldn't. maybe it's an extremely elaborate hoax, but more likely he is just a righteous dude

FYI, my point was rhetorical—i think the band knew that keith is a unicorn lyricist/vocalist. moving forward without him after 23 years is genuinely insane. i don't think that was lost on them, hence why it still doesn't add up. anyway, in addition to all the other anecdotes being shared, one thing i thought was weird—as someone who also has dealt with a lifetime of depression and anxiety—is how defensive keith was to the band announcement that he'd take the last few nights off from tour. i read that as: this is a dude proactively caring for his mental health. that's super dope. folks should respect that decision, even if it costs the band a few shows at the tail end of a tour. i literally did not think twice about the announcement. but then keith came out swinging, saying he's taking off time for self-preservation, to shield himself from his brother, whatever. again, if they chose to handle everything privately and work past it, i literally would not have thought twice about the announcement. we all went through some shit the last two years. i wouldn't blame anyone for needing a few days' rest. but he was a wounded animal, and he dragged his brother and the band thinking they dragged him. and i don't doubt for a second that jordan can be an asshole (tbh that might be his charm, weirdly!) but... man. to everyone else's points above showing how it does add up: it just really, really does not add up! this was weird!

forgive me for dwelling on the details (or lack thereof), and do not mistake me for taking sides, but: if ETID allegedly wanted to move on without keith, why didn't they just... move on without keith. like, if keith is justified in preserving himself and leaving the band, why are the remaining four members agreeing to dissolve everything? it just doesn't make sense to me. i hope it was a misunderstanding but at this point it doesn't really matter if it was or wasn't, and we won't really ever have clarity either given the two sides of this. but it's just not adding up for me. (while my wife keeps telling me "plenty of bands have broken up over misunderstandings" while i go full charlie kelly conspiracy gif)

they went out on top which, in a way, is great, but we were all fucking robbed

just came to post this. big thing is that date is after tid the season. whatever time off they took to reconcile was smoke and mirrors, or they simply failed

i'm surprised it sold out so quickly too. i'd bet it was a pretty limited press that first time around. will be curious to see if they'll go with the same colorway or something new. just glad that they've already committed to a repress—good for them being transparent about it

kinda in this headspace, too. maybe it's the whole pillar thing. and branching off into HA. don't think i'm even gonna watch the stream, although i don't doubt some of the preorder stuff will lure me in. we'll see.

there are certainly worse nostalgia buys. i still sing bits and pieces of these songs to my wife all the time. she has no idea what i'm talking about in fairness to them, i am more than happy to support them after the fact for years and years of free content supported with a limited array of merch sales. also, although H*R holds a cherished place in my heart, i think if i went back to watch a lot of it i'd find that i've outgrown it. so... i'm not sure new content would do much for me these days. (although undoubtedly new content would be very welcome!)

damn, good for you for being persistent... clicked check out a few times plus some refreshing, removing and re-adding to the cart... no dice. now all options are grayed out so i think any opportunity for snagging some of those carted-not-bought copies has since passed

it's not, keep saying out of stock once in cart

welp. thought i'd be ok not setting an alarm (currently 6:27 am here). looks like i woke up 10 minutes too late. cool! (edit: i mean, i know it went on sale at 6 am, just that it sold out 10 minutes ago... nvm)

amen. bought one of each—i have a feeling they'll be fairly limited but only because i don't know who's handling everything. ultimately i only want one so i want to see which variant i like more and then i'll sell the second one at cost to someone here. on a message board!!!

bumping a three-week-old bump of a four-year-old thread to wonder out loud if stand tall is the best EP, let alone debut EP, that i have ever heard