paranoidantroyd Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Make a valid comparison to support how Stafford is better than Romo and we'll talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjb2k1 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 was just a joke man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyFuckingPowers Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 http://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/status/393051898271367169/photo/1 How bout that... Got in an argument with my friend last night over this. People need to remember there was basically a whole season Kitna was throwing Dez the ball. He truly broke out with Kitna than with Romo. That year Romo rarely threw it to him. Pretty sure Kitna was actually his first TD passer. Dez is better than Calvin in my mind. Yeah Im a Dallas fan, but come on this guy is a monster. He has more yards and TDs if he isnt interfered with 4 times on one drive (Looking at you Carry Williams you piece of shit). Calvin is great but no doubt in my mind Dez breaks that record within the next 2 years. People just want to knock Dez because of his past and the fact he's a Cowboy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyFuckingPowers Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 or throws for 500 yards and one very horrible costly interception that renders the 500 yards useless? heh its bullshit that a guy has to throw for 500 yards to get his team a win because a defense cant force a team to punt once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjb2k1 Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 its bullshit that a guy has to throw for 500 yards to get his team a win because a defense cant force a team to punt once. yeah i almost felt bad for him when that happened (sry butthurt bills fan here) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paranoidantroyd Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Megatron had a conglomerate of QB's thru his first 2 seasons (32 games) made up of Jon Kitna, Dan Orlovsky, Daunte Culpepper and Drew Henson. Then came Stafford in 2009 and he only played in 8 or 9 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Got in an argument with my friend last night over this. People need to remember there was basically a whole season Kitna was throwing Dez the ball. He truly broke out with Kitna than with Romo. That year Romo rarely threw it to him. Pretty sure Kitna was actually his first TD passer. Dez is better than Calvin in my mind. Yeah Im a Dallas fan, but come on this guy is a monster. He has more yards and TDs if he isnt interfered with 4 times on one drive (Looking at you Carry Williams you piece of shit). Calvin is great but no doubt in my mind Dez breaks that record within the next 2 years. People just want to knock Dez because of his past and the fact he's a Cowboy. Well Dez's best season so far had him getting 86 yards per game and Calvin put up 122 yards per game to break that record. So you can project whatever you want for Dez over 2 years but he has a LONG way to go to break that record. He needs to increase his per game production by 50%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyFuckingPowers Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Dez doesnt get that ball thrown to him that much each game. Its just when he does he makes it count. Detroit's offense (up until Reggie Bush came in) relied on Calvin. Dallas doesnt rely on Dez, feeding him the ball as much. They spread to wealth to Austin, Dez, Witten, now Williams, and whatever RB is playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Dez doesnt get that ball thrown to him that much each game. Its just when he does he makes it count. Detroit's offense (up until Reggie Bush came in) relied on Calvin. Dallas doesnt rely on Dez, feeding him the ball as much. They spread to wealth to Austin, Dez, Witten, now Williams, and whatever RB is playing. Dez is incred. No doubt. You just said that he would break the record Calvin just put up. So he would if he played in Detroit but he won't because he plays next to Terrence Williams? Don't think so. Even though Detroit's offense is improved this year they still threw to other guys last year. They still ran with Bell and Leshoure. Calvin faced tons of double teams. He's just unstoppable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Believe he also set that record while playing with broken fingers. Won't admit to it anymore, because he doesn't want the lie downs to get in trouble for not disclosing on the injury report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyFuckingPowers Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Just want to say Dez makes the same catch last week against philly if he isnt interfered with. Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Which is why I think Dez is an amazing receiver. But going based on combine stats (which I admit are imperfect, as they aren't the same age), Calvin is bigger (6'5" to 6'2"), Calvin's worst 40 time was better than Dez's best (4.39 to 4.45), and his pro day vertical jump was 4.5 inches higher. I think those are some pretty good, objective stats to use to compare them. kamalatapes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crime Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Last time I checked Megatron broke the single season recieving record with an injury. When Dez comes close to that then let's discuss if they're in the same ballpark. kamalatapes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 seriously. romo and stafford are about the same, so... if Dez is better than Calvin, put up the numbers. If he cant, he's clearly not better, regardless if other teams are interfering with him on catches or not. people interfere with calvin, too, its not like he's immune to double-coverage and pass interference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crime Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 seriously. romo and stafford are about the same, so... if Dez is better than Calvin, put up the numbers. If he cant, he's clearly not better, regardless if other teams are interfering with him on catches or not. people interfere with calvin, too, its not like he's immune to double-coverage and pass interference Fuck no. Stafford is a much better QB. Romo is shit. I'd take Freeman before I took Romo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Fuck no. Stafford is a much better QB. Romo is shit. I'd take Freeman before I took Romo. nope, both will never amount to much of anything except a lot of yards during the regular season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintedinexile Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Romo > Stafford....but by a hair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyFuckingPowers Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Fuck no. Stafford is a much better QB. Romo is shit. I'd take Freeman before I took Romo. Are you fucking crazy? Freeman?! A guy who literally hasnt done SHIT ever?! At least Tony has a playoff win. Romo is on the verge of breaking Troy Aikmans records, TROY FUCKING AIKMAN. But yeah....he sucks. Im not saying hes incredible or the best in the league, but Romo is a good quarterback. To say hes not is fucking foolish. Guy has top 10 stats every year. But because he has to carry the team because his defense fails on him when he needs them to come through and he makes a mistake, he gets labeled as a bad qb. Such bullshit. kamalatapes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamalatapes Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I agree Romo>Freeman by like a hundred of miles. I feel like Calvin Johnson has taken too many hits because Stafford is so desperate at times he makes poor throws, similar to Romo but Calvin puts his body in harms way and comes down with the ball, but pays the price physically. I've seen Calvin hit really hard on a lot of slants and drag plays. (It's expected to get hit on a quick slant but still, he's catching passes behind him time to time which helps in getting a receiver ready to take a hit expectedly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 hate to burst Cowboy fans bubbles, but Aikman was good quarterback on a great team. his numbers are NOT that great. yes, he won 3 super bowls, but his 32,000 yards passing is 28th in NFL history, had 165/141 TD/INT and had a career passer rating of 81.7, showing that winning superbowls is all it takes to get into the hall of fame in the NFL, and the fact that Romo is about to pass his records? WOW... Troy never threw for more than 3500 yards in a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Lucky for us the NFL has a system for rolling QB performance into single, comparable number. Romo has a career QBR of 96.1 and stafford's is 84.5. Maybe the numbers are a little closer if you throw out Staffords 61 in his rookie year (Stafford being thrown out there right away while I'm assuming Romo sat on the bench for a little as an undrafted player) but QBR definitely sides with Romo being a better QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Lucky for us the NFL has a system for rolling QB performance into single, comparable number. Romo has a career QBR of 96.1 and stafford's is 84.5. Maybe the numbers are a little closer if you throw out Staffords 61 in his rookie year (Stafford being thrown out there right away while I'm assuming Romo sat on the bench for a little as an undrafted player) but QBR definitely sides with Romo being a better QB. you mean ESPN created a system for the NFL to not really use outside of ESPN publication/broadcasts, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I said QBR but meant Passer Rating. The numbers I posted reflect that. No one would rate Romo 96.1/100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3arl Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Can we all agree that neither will win a super bowl seangj 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seangj Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Can we all agree that neither will win a super bowl Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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