andrew13 Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 who? won't beat my geoff sanderson signed whalers puck! from the top: Fedetenko, Borque, Brooks Orpik, Pascal Dupuis, Letang, and Letang 8x10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbypuckett Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 No idea why Chicago wasn't a player for Kovalchuk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldsnap Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 is there a maximum stick length?that chara dude seriously has like an 8 foot stick. seriously! i was thinking the same last night, and the commentators said the same as well. fuck chara, that giraffe should go play basketball instead. and what a game, habs scored 2 goals in 38 seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgoodcore Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Chara uses a stick longer than allowed because he gets a specific exemption he had to apply for. He is 6'9" off skates so I think it makes sense. Pronger also uses a massive stick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shenanigans Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Kovalchuk trade is terrible for a Thrashers fan. I live in ATL and root for the Thrashers every game they're not playing the Flyers. Not anymore. I will root for the opposing team every game until they fire Don Waddell. We've had 4 superstars in ATL (if you count Savard) and he has not been able to re-sign one of them. He's terrible. At least in the Heatley trade we got Hossa. In the Hossa trade we got Chrestensen whos already gone, Armstrong whos not worth the tape on his stick, and Angelo who? Now for Kovy we get 2 nobodies, a prospect who is suspended for the rest of the season in juniors and "a first round pick" when in reality all we did was move up like 5 spots since we will be near the top of the 2nd round and NJ will be near the bottom of the 1st round. Off with Waddell's head. I can't believe he's still involved with USA hockey either. He probably won't be after we get blown out by everybody in 2 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drabley Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 No idea why Chicago wasn't a player for Kovalchuk. Glenn Sather taught us that assembling an allstar team does not win championships. The chemistry that lot has is more important than adding a THIRD sniper. Hawks need more depth on the back end anyway. Shedding some spare parts (Sopel, Barker, et al) piece by piece for more tangible assets would be a better move for Chicago, in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgoodcore Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Kovalchuk trade is terrible for a Thrashers fan. I live in ATL and root for the Thrashers every game they're not playing the Flyers. Not anymore. I will root for the opposing team every game until they fire Don Waddell. We've had 4 superstars in ATL (if you count Savard) and he has not been able to re-sign one of them. He's terrible. At least in the Heatley trade we got Hossa. In the Hossa trade we got Chrestensen whos already gone, Armstrong whos not worth the tape on his stick, and Angelo who? Now for Kovy we get 2 nobodies, a prospect who is suspended for the rest of the season in juniors and "a first round pick" when in reality all we did was move up like 5 spots since we will be near the top of the 2nd round and NJ will be near the bottom of the 1st round. Off with Waddell's head. I can't believe he's still involved with USA hockey either. He probably won't be after we get blown out by everybody in 2 weeks. I understand you being totally frustrated by what, besides offering Chuk money was Waddell to do? Twelve years for a total of 101 million is a better offer than Ilya's getting anywhere else. I'd blame ownership's inability to get their act straight more than anything else. As for Oduya and Bergfors, they're two good NHL players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbypuckett Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Kovalchuk trade is terrible for a Thrashers fan. I live in ATL and root for the Thrashers every game they're not playing the Flyers. Not anymore. I will root for the opposing team every game until they fire Don Waddell. We've had 4 superstars in ATL (if you count Savard) and he has not been able to re-sign one of them. He's terrible. At least in the Heatley trade we got Hossa. In the Hossa trade we got Chrestensen whos already gone, Armstrong whos not worth the tape on his stick, and Angelo who? Now for Kovy we get 2 nobodies, a prospect who is suspended for the rest of the season in juniors and "a first round pick" when in reality all we did was move up like 5 spots since we will be near the top of the 2nd round and NJ will be near the bottom of the 1st round. Off with Waddell's head. I can't believe he's still involved with USA hockey either. He probably won't be after we get blown out by everybody in 2 weeks. Waddell isn't the brightest owner, but you might not be much brighter. I think the trade is a pretty good one. As stated, the main parties involved in the trade were Ottawa, St. Louis, and New Jersey. New Jersey came in last and you have to assume they offered the best package. I think it's a good trade when you consider that Kovalchuk wasn't going to sign with Atlanta -- Maybe that's Waddells fault, maybe he wants to play elsewhere in the NHL, maybe he wants to win the cup, maybe he wants to go to the KHL, etc... You guys did get fleeced in the Hossa trade with the Pens, but at the time people thought Atlanta won big. Esposito is injury prone and Christensen was full of potential. Colby is a popular guy down there I suppose, great team player. Plus you got a late 1st round pick. Oduya is a solid NHL defensemen, maybe underrated. Bergfors has been a pretty good rookie, he's struggling now, but most rookies do. Comier is an idiot, but a pretty good hockey player, plus another 1st round pick. I'd take that over nothing any day. Dunno why he let Savard walk though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shenanigans Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 I understand you being totally frustrated by what, besides offering Chuk money was Waddell to do? Twelve years for a total of 101 million is a better offer than Ilya's getting anywhere else. I'd blame ownership's inability to get their act straight more than anything else. As for Oduya and Bergfors, they're two good NHL players. It's not that he didn't offer him a contract. It's the fact that 2 years ago Kovy said he was leaving if Waddell couldn't put together a competitive team. The sad thing is that a big offseason signing for Atlanta is Pavel Kubina. This is the salary cap era. All stars jump teams like it's nothing and Waddell can't get any of them. I blame ownership's inability to get their act straight for the reason we still have Waddell. Kovy wasn't going to stay unless they offered him 12 years 120 million. But this trade is ridiculous. Bergfors and Oduya are 2 average NHL players at best and that is all they will be. I think we could have done better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shenanigans Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Waddell isn't the brightest owner, but you might not be much brighter. I think the trade is a pretty good one. As stated, the main parties involved in the trade were Ottawa, St. Louis, and New Jersey. New Jersey came in last and you have to assume they offered the best package. I think it's a good trade when you consider that Kovalchuk wasn't going to sign with Atlanta -- Maybe that's Waddells fault, maybe he wants to play elsewhere in the NHL, maybe he wants to win the cup, maybe he wants to go to the KHL, etc... You guys did get fleeced in the Hossa trade with the Pens, but at the time people thought Atlanta won big. Esposito is injury prone and Christensen was full of potential. Colby is a popular guy down there I suppose, great team player. Plus you got a late 1st round pick. Oduya is a solid NHL defensemen, maybe underrated. Bergfors has been a pretty good rookie, he's struggling now, but most rookies do. Comier is an idiot, but a pretty good hockey player, plus another 1st round pick. I'd take that over nothing any day. Dunno why he let Savard walk though. LA and Chicago were involved originally as well. We should have been able to get a much better deal from Chicago as they're not going to be able to re-sign 1/2 their team anyway. LA is full of prospects. I would have taken any one out of moller, johnson, doughty, kopitar, or frolov over both of these guys. And the 1st round pick we get is really just moving up to like 27 rather than 37. NJ will be at the end of the 1st round and we swapped 2nd round picks so they'll get our near the beginning of the 2nd round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drabley Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Waddell isn't the brightest owner, but you might not be much brighter. I think the trade is a pretty good one. As stated, the main parties involved in the trade were Ottawa, St. Louis, and New Jersey. New Jersey came in last and you have to assume they offered the best package. I think it's a good trade when you consider that Kovalchuk wasn't going to sign with Atlanta -- Maybe that's Waddells fault, maybe he wants to play elsewhere in the NHL, maybe he wants to win the cup, maybe he wants to go to the KHL, etc... You guys did get fleeced in the Hossa trade with the Pens, but at the time people thought Atlanta won big. Esposito is injury prone and Christensen was full of potential. Colby is a popular guy down there I suppose, great team player. Plus you got a late 1st round pick. Oduya is a solid NHL defensemen, maybe underrated. Bergfors has been a pretty good rookie, he's struggling now, but most rookies do. Comier is an idiot, but a pretty good hockey player, plus another 1st round pick. I'd take that over nothing any day. Dunno why he let Savard walk though. LA and Chicago were involved originally as well. We should have been able to get a much better deal from Chicago as they're not going to be able to re-sign 1/2 their team anyway. LA is full of prospects. I would have taken any one out of moller, johnson, doughty, kopitar, or frolov over both of these guys. And the 1st round pick we get is really just moving up to like 27 rather than 37. NJ will be at the end of the 1st round and we swapped 2nd round picks so they'll get our near the beginning of the 2nd round pick. And I would have taken Marleau/Heatley/Boyle. Get real, man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgoodcore Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 You weren't getting Kopitar, Brown, Johnson, or Doughty. For a rental player you weren't getting Moller or Frolov either. Honestly, I don't think Chicago needed the offense and Lombardi would have given a slew of non-NHL players that's not what Atlanta needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesack18 Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 How hard do you guys reckon it would be to get tickets for the season opener in Helsinki next season, Minnesota vs Carolina? Im going to be in Europe at that stage and would love to go along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbypuckett Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 Waddell isn't the brightest owner, but you might not be much brighter. I think the trade is a pretty good one. As stated, the main parties involved in the trade were Ottawa, St. Louis, and New Jersey. New Jersey came in last and you have to assume they offered the best package. I think it's a good trade when you consider that Kovalchuk wasn't going to sign with Atlanta -- Maybe that's Waddells fault, maybe he wants to play elsewhere in the NHL, maybe he wants to win the cup, maybe he wants to go to the KHL, etc... You guys did get fleeced in the Hossa trade with the Pens, but at the time people thought Atlanta won big. Esposito is injury prone and Christensen was full of potential. Colby is a popular guy down there I suppose, great team player. Plus you got a late 1st round pick. Oduya is a solid NHL defensemen, maybe underrated. Bergfors has been a pretty good rookie, he's struggling now, but most rookies do. Comier is an idiot, but a pretty good hockey player, plus another 1st round pick. I'd take that over nothing any day. Dunno why he let Savard walk though. LA and Chicago were involved originally as well. We should have been able to get a much better deal from Chicago as they're not going to be able to re-sign 1/2 their team anyway. LA is full of prospects. I would have taken any one out of moller, johnson, doughty, kopitar, or frolov over both of these guys. And the 1st round pick we get is really just moving up to like 27 rather than 37. NJ will be at the end of the 1st round and we swapped 2nd round picks so they'll get our near the beginning of the 2nd round pick. From the stuff I've read the only serious players were Ottawa, St. Louis, and NJ. If LA and CHI were involved, they must have just been testing the water w/ limited trades that would not have netted ATL anything close to what NJ gave them. RENTAL player Keep that part in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgoodcore Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 LA was serious to some degree. From the official LA Kings blog it seems the deal fell apart because Atlanta wanted Dustin Brown, Jack Johnson or Wayne Simmonds to be included and the Kings said no. The Kings were serious about trying but wanted the deal to be about picks and prospects, no one from the NHL club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drabley Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 LA was serious to some degree. From the official LA Kings blog it seems the deal fell apart because Atlanta wanted Dustin Brown, Jack Johnson or Wayne Simmonds to be included and the Kings said no. The Kings were serious about trying but wanted the deal to be about picks and prospects, no one from the NHL club. With Atlanta still in the playoff picture, if Wadell took all picks and prospects he would have been run out of town on a rail as suggested previously. What I don't understand is why the rush? It's not like Kovalchuk's value would depreciate. I'd have milked him for every last goal and maybe gotten a little sweeter deal at the deadline from a playoff cusp team. The injury factor maybe? Just seems like the wrong time, to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew13 Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 roster freeze during the break though, and kovy's playing and could possibly get hurt, you have to look at that too. he gets hurt and you're left holding a superstar who doesn't want to play for you and no compensation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shenanigans Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 injury factor along w/ his value decreasing as the deadline gets closer because everyone knew the Thrashers really HAD to deal him. Back to that Bob McKenzie article. I have no problem with the big hits or the fights. The problem I have is that the NHL needs to step up. Either call the instigator all the time and try to get rid of it, or don't call it all. The NHL wants it called. The refs pick and choose when to call it. If it's a clean hit and someone comes in to fight, that's instigating. Call it every time. I am personally all for it. I think we all remember McSorley coming to LA w/ Gretzky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgoodcore Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 McSorely did score 40 goals at one point playing with Gretzky. And Wendell Clark and Marty had a HUGE fight after Marty cleanly hit Doug Gilmour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgoodcore Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 LA was serious to some degree. From the official LA Kings blog it seems the deal fell apart because Atlanta wanted Dustin Brown, Jack Johnson or Wayne Simmonds to be included and the Kings said no. The Kings were serious about trying but wanted the deal to be about picks and prospects, no one from the NHL club. With Atlanta still in the playoff picture, if Wadell took all picks and prospects he would have been run out of town on a rail as suggested previously. Picks and prospects could have provided the foundation for a much better Thrashers team. Best I know the Thrashers aren't rich with young talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shenanigans Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 Picks and prospects could have provided the foundation for a much better Thrashers team. Best I know the Thrashers aren't rich with young talent. Which is sad in its own right considering we've picked in the top 10 just about all but 1 year of our existence. Anybody see Patrick Stefan lately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew13 Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 you need to pick better and scout better. how's esposito and christensen working out for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbypuckett Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 Brian Burke's son died last night in a car accident. http://www.pal-item.com/article/20100205....late d+fatality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 you need to pick better and scout better. how's esposito and christensen working out for you? erik christensen is gone, esposito has been hurt all year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shenanigans Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 you need to pick better and scout better. how's esposito and christensen working out for you? AGREED! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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