thrillho Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 since all those torture memos were released, i figured it'd be interesting to actually see someone get waterboarded (in a controlled environment), their reaction, and how long someone can withstand it for (since 2 suspects got it over 250 times according to reports). http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1579920046?bctid=20047560001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monk0nuggets Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Yikes. Looks simple enough, but I'm sure it's terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitizedbyu Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I wanna try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suburbanargyle Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Getting waterboarded is part of the training curriculum for a lot of our own military, specifically during SERE training (Survival, Evasion, Resistance, Escape) for the jobs that require it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchrudder Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 so my dad doesnt think this is torture, he obviously has no idea what waterboarding is. that would be insane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjg12590 Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 wow that guy was really shaken afterwards...i guess i would be too though...interesting vid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xfedaykinx Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 yeah, saw this last night. shit is wacky. looks terrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kouka Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 wow that guy was really shaken afterwards...i guess i would be too though...interesting vid yeah, and he was in a controlled environment. could you imagine how many times worse it would be if you were actually a prisoner? fucking insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theambulancereview Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Wow, thanks for posting this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robotnerd Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 that's nuts, kinda like when mythbuster's tested out chinese water torture, except more intense and in fast forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4m35 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 i've watched wayyyy too much 24 to ever want to be tortured voluntarily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtw88 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Sean Hannity is supposedly getting water boarded on sunday for charity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchrudder Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Sean Hannity is supposedly getting water boarded on sunday for charity. what channel??? i wanna see that douchebag get water boarded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Sean Hannity is supposedly getting water boarded on sunday for charity. what channel??? i wanna see that douchebag get water boarded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swank Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 That was gnarly. Thanks for sharing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtw88 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Sean Hannity is supposedly getting water boarded on sunday for charity. what channel??? i wanna see that douchebag get water boarded I'm not sure. I was just watching an interview he was doing where some guy called him out for not qualifying water boarding as torture, and Hannity said he'd get water boarded for charity. I can't find the original video, but the clip is in this Olbermann video. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/30377447#30377447 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchrudder Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 your wrong, if you agree with sean hannity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partysmasher Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 wow that guy was really shaken afterwards...i guess i would be too though...interesting vid yeah, and he was in a controlled environment. could you imagine how many times worse it would be if you were actually a prisoner? fucking insane. absolutely, i read in the news yesterday that two detainees suspected of involvement in 9/11 were subjected to this something like 266 times between them during their time in guantanamo. How anyone can deny this is torture is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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oakland Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 I think it's unfair to act like this is such a cut and dried issue. I'm not convinced torturing people always gets you the best information but I'm also not going to monday morning quarterback a bunch of experienced counter terrorism experts. And I'm not talking about assholes like Dick Cheney. War is terrible for sure, and things get very sketchy when you have a huge organized military fighting a disorganized pack of psychos from all over the world. I hear a lot of criticism (much of it fair) of the U.S. methods but I've never heard one single idea of how to deal with terrorism any other way. Let's face it, these aren't Black Blok protestors throwing rocks at the local Starbucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnoldlayne Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 You're all a bunch of pussies. I could totally handle wakeboarding for 15 seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partysmasher Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 I think it's unfair to act like this is such a cut and dried issue. I'm not convinced torturing people always gets you the best information but I'm also not going to monday morning quarterback a bunch of experienced counter terrorism experts. And I'm not talking about assholes like Dick Cheney. War is terrible for sure, and things get very sketchy when you have a huge organized military fighting a disorganized pack of psychos from all over the world. I hear a lot of criticism (much of it fair) of the U.S. methods but I've never heard one single idea of how to deal with terrorism any other way. Let's face it, these aren't Black Blok protestors throwing rocks at the local Starbucks. I agree that the people we face are extremely dangerous and attempts need to be made to stop them of course, the problem for me is that the US along with various other countries have outlawed these methods and then been caught using them. They're responsible for thousands of troops stationed in the countries these terrorists came from, any of whom could be captured and tortured. If that happened, who are they to square up to any of these countries and accuse them of torture when they've shown they can't even follow their own rules when it comes to what is and what isn't considered torture, it just seems highly irresponsible, if i was one of these soldiers i'd be shit scared what i may face if i was captured now my superiors have been caught using methods they themselves outlawed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goraiders Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 I think it's unfair to act like this is such a cut and dried issue. I'm not convinced torturing people always gets you the best information but I'm also not going to monday morning quarterback a bunch of experienced counter terrorism experts. And I'm not talking about assholes like Dick Cheney. War is terrible for sure, and things get very sketchy when you have a huge organized military fighting a disorganized pack of psychos from all over the world. I hear a lot of criticism (much of it fair) of the U.S. methods but I've never heard one single idea of how to deal with terrorism any other way. Let's face it, these aren't Black Blok protestors throwing rocks at the local Starbucks. I agree that the people we face are extremely dangerous and attempts need to be made to stop them of course, the problem for me is that the US along with various other countries have outlawed these methods and then been caught using them. They're responsible for thousands of troops stationed in the countries these terrorists came from, any of whom could be captured and tortured. If that happened, who are they to square up to any of these countries and accuse them of torture when they've shown they can't even follow their own rules when it comes to what is and what isn't considered torture, it just seems highly irresponsible, if i was one of these soldiers i'd be shit scared what i may face if i was captured now my superiors have been caught using methods they themselves outlawed. that was a really good sum up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robotnerd Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 olbermann is my journalistic hero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorbike Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 i thought we were supposed to above torture, we are america right? and ya, all the idiots screaming that we are putting soldiers lifes in danger by bringing this up are probably right, dont be suprised if you see youtube videos of americans in iraq getting waterboarded 266 times for "vital" information. shits fucking stupid. here is my example.. i know a guy who served in the first gulf war and was special ops. he has told me stories that would make peoples head spin, movie type recon shit. when he was in training, he was waterboarded, even though he was told if he was caught he would most likely be beaten first for a few weeks and under nurished as this is the proper procedure for waterboarding. here is the best part.. he was told that him being waterboarded was to get him ready in case he were tortured by the enemy! meaning, WATERBOARDING IS TORTURE! what he said about the experience was that even though there was no actual pain inflicted and that he was not actually drowning, he felt like his body was being suffocated and it felt as real as someone putting a bag over your head so you will stop breathing. THATS FUCKING TORTURE, physical or not. if your brain is convinced your drowning, chances are you will think you are drowning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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