enjoyadrian Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Daang what a dick: http://www.matadorrecords.com/matablog/2009/08/12/a-homeless-guys-editorial-tony-victorys-idea-of-karma/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kissthesharks Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Wow. I knew there was a reason I cancelled my victory order. Maybe it was karma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante3000 Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Wow...Hugest most epic dick move someone can ever pull. I hope to god he doesn't believe in Karma or Tony's got a major league ass fucking coming his way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamlikesmusic Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Why the fuck is Streetlight Manifesto on Victory... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokithelion Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 cause they tomas had a contract for like a million records from the catch 22 days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmonaut Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Wow. I knew there was a reason I cancelled my victory order. Maybe it was karma. Or maybe it's because the entire Victory roster consists of awful mall punk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Another Tom Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 What a prick. Karma should come round to hit him in the form of a bus traveling at 70mph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hickey Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Everyone is surprised that Tony is a dick? This goes beyond his usual BS, but still this didn't surprise me one bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjustinxschwierx Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 let's go burn down the building where Victory is at in Chicago and throw a hot dog toasting party on the corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 what a joke... this guy should start promoting mma or something. hes got small man complex and is out of his fucking mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlovecolouredx Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 tony may think victory might be bigger such metal blade records or century media but he should know those label owner/founder never did what the bad like this. support victory records for me are for the band, not for tony's new limousine. i'm fail to know the owner of my favourite 90's label be like this.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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littlejonnyhormone Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgoodcore Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 I'm not sure if that's any worse than the email to Steve Jobs about his cancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kissthesharks Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Wow. I knew there was a reason I cancelled my victory order. Maybe it was karma. Or maybe it's because the entire Victory roster consists of awful mall punk. It was Between the Buried and Me. I don't really know what other bands are on Victory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flood Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 matt pinfield looking muther fokker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suburbanargyle Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 You couldn't pay me to listen to a band on Victory anyway. But that sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorbike Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 http://absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=1260002 more added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casey Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 It's sad (and probably wasn't true 5-10 years ago), but fans of Matador bands could totally beat up the fans of Victory bands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enjoyadrian Posted August 13, 2009 Author Share Posted August 13, 2009 these in the comments section of the matablog were actually really funny: Q. What’s the difference between a prostitute and a band on victory? A. The prostitute actually gets paid for getting screwed. Q. What does the victory band get that the prostitute doesn’t? A. Slapped around. Q. How many albums does a victory band need to sell to earn a royalty? A. When it happens, we’ll let you know. Q. Why do most stories about victory bands feature a picture of tony brummel instead of the band? A. It was his favorite picture from their photo shoot. Q. What does a new band need to get signed to victory? A. A rejection from every other record label. Q. What’s the difference between payola and tony brummel? A. Payola isn’t a complete embarrassment to the music industry. Q. Why doesn’t tony brummel get a hair piece? A. He hasn’t figured out a way to charge it back to one of his bands. Q. What’s the difference between an e-mail from tony brummel and a song from Weird Al Yankovic? A. The brummel e-mail gets more laughs. Q. What do you call a hardcore straight-edge vegan that eats meat, drinks, smokes and takes drugs? A. Tony brummel. Q. What’s the difference between the recording budget for a victory band and the latest addition to tony’s wine cellar? A. He pays more for the bottle of wine. Q. What’s the difference between someone getting chemotherapy and tony brummel? A. The chemo patient looks healthier. Q. What’s the difference between tony brummel and the average hardcore guy? A. About 30 years. Q.. What’s the difference between a demo and an album on victory? A. The demo is actually recorded in a studio. Q. What do the entertainment community and the medical community both agree on about tony brummel? A. He’s completely impotent. Q. What’s the difference between victory records and a major label? A. The major label cares about more than just making money and screwing artists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokithelion Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 I'm not sure if that's any worse than the email to Steve Jobs about his cancer. didn't hear about that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devinr Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 wow. seriously fuck that guy. That was the dick move of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casey Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 I'm not sure if that's any worse than the email to Steve Jobs about his cancer. didn't hear about that one ***Reverse chronological order. Start from the bottom and read up. (Not sure if this is the one you meant Sammy) From: Tony Brummel Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 8:11 PM To: Steve Jobs Subject: RE: The #1 Independent Label in the US At least I now know that being the #1 Independent Record Label in the biggest music market in the world has no meaning to Apple. The majors were not thinking when they gave you their content for free without negotiating a % of each hard drive sold and/or equity in Apple or bonuses on increases in the company's valuation. I have had 4 iPods die on me already (I ripped my 'physical' music collection). Kudos to you though- it was a masterful plan and you preyed upon and capitalized on the major record company's desperation for a new revenue stream. The Independent sector is where new trends, ideas, thought processes and innovations always originate. Apple's corporate image projects innovation, individuality and being 'ahead of the curve'. My small, 40 person, privately held operation had three albums on my industry's Top 200 last week- two of which were in the Top 50. Not alot changes in the music industry though so Apple seems to be fitting right in. Your response will save me alot of time and effort moving forward. I appreciate the courtesy of you responding to my attempt to be in business together. As a human being - congratulations on beating cancer last year. Take Care. —-—-—-—-—-- From: Steve Jobs Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 7:28 PM To: Tony Brummel Subject: Re: The #1 Independent Label in the US I don't see us doing a major PR campaign around this - we have too much on our plate that's more important to our music efforts right now. But we can get your music on iTunes. What's holding that up? Steve —-—-—-—-—-— On Apr 12, 2006, at 5:26 PM, Tony Brummel wrote: I want to work with people that respect and care about our brand beyond being sent a weblink to fill out an "app". For Victory and iTunes to work together it should be something special. "The #1 Independent label joins forces with iTunes".... its a great headline/story and business. More importantly, its a great PR campaign if people are prepared to think outside of the box and see the bigger picture here. It would be cutting edge, "anti-corporate" (which fits the Apple image) and revolutionary. Everyone would win. I am always looking for new allies and partners where everyone can mutually win. —-—-—-—-—-- From: Steve Jobs Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 7:11 PM To: Tony Brummel Subject: Re: The #1 Independent Label in the US So what do you want that we are unwilling to agree to? Steve —-—-—-—-—-— On Apr 12, 2006, at 4:28 PM, Tony Brummel wrote: Steve, I doubt that this will reach you but I figured I'd give it a shot. As a fellow entrepreneur I find it quite strange how your "music" people have treated my company. I am not like the guys at the major record labels. I am a self-made entrepreneur. My counterparts are ultimately employees that do not have the flexibility or ability to operate with real creativity in an industry that requires such. Victory Records is a lifestyle company and a brand that has always marched to the beat of its own drum and operated contrary to industry standards. That is a major reason why we are the #1 Independent label in the country. The entire music industry and many music fans also know that we are not in business with iTunes. I have tried to engage your folks in proactive discussions regarding how we can work together since April 2004. Unfortunately, they showed no interest, creativity or entrepreneurial thought regarding a relationship between our companies/brands. In fact, the dialogue was extremely disrespectful and typified everything that I thought your company was not. Wal-Mart has shown us more respect. We currently have our second Victory Records only endcap at Best Buy. Why are we the only label that Best Buy has ever worked with in this capacity? Because the Victory consumer is a coveted one. The majority of the people that buy our albums are 12-24 year old music fanatics that are typically two steps ahead of the next big trend. As the leading independent label in the country we are very in synch with our supporters as they are with us. From a business standpoint I was always a fan of your work and Apple. Was everything I read false propaganda? I'd prefer to see our companies working together in a proactive and revolutionary way but your "music" people elimated that via their pompous, uneducated and condescending demeanor. That does not help you. It does not help me either. I believe that there are synergies that could benefit us both. I hate to see collectively wasted opportunity. Regards, Tony Brummel PS: Right now, the Victory Records Podcast is the 9th most popular 'Music' category podcast on iTunes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickheitman Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Wow. I knew there was a reason I cancelled my victory order. Maybe it was karma. Or maybe it's because the entire Victory roster consists of awful mall punk. you mean the current roster right? ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgoodcore Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Or maybe it's because the entire Victory roster consists of awful mall punk. you mean the current roster right? ??? I think you can take it for granted when someone says roster they mean current roster as I think they'd use alumni to refer to past bands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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