Invest in Vinyl Collective/Suburban Home's Future

[servo]

wait, that thread was only 9/30/09

boy did i make a boo boo

[servo]

also, new idea for virgil to make money and get out of the hole:

sell some fucking drugs

[mediocore]

wait, that thread was only 9/30/09

boy did i make a boo boo

Fixed.

[hookups96]

So back to the reason this treat started, with this whole $75 membership thing i get 10% off my orders right?

So what happens when you do your specials, like the 14% off right now. Would i get 14% off, and then another 10% off on top of that?

Yeah i know i am an idiot for not talking about the scene or DIY distro at shows.

[vinyljunkie]

along with the above question, would that work with wholesale pricing as well? 10% off that?

[floyd]

You know the lifetime thing Virgil is proposing is something that AK Press has done for years, if they are not still doing so.

As far as distros go, I am not sure they are as lucrative or productive in this age of the internet where kids can get the records they want where ever they want. Also while I still do see people do distros they are usually labels that also have mail distros, which means most likely they trade. Stevo doesn't really count when he does his at Gilman because he also happens to own a brick and mortar record store.

Now onto bands running distros, even this is lots of times done by bands trading there releases they got for free for other bands releases. I barely ever hear of a band buying other bands releases to sell on tour. That is too much of a pain. Having worked at a label, I also know that getting paid back by bands for tour copies can be shaky at best. Anyway that is my two cents.

[jawbroken]

haha i watched that episode last night after being inspired by this thread

[shoulderthing]

the scene

I'll never get tired of this phrase.

[rocknroll76]

who cares?

[rocknroll76]

who cares?

[rocknroll76]

who cares?

[rocknroll76]

who cares?

[rocknroll76]

who cares?

[rocknroll76]

who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?who cares?

[lokithelion]

So you're just an idiot. Gotcha.

I'm not denying I listened to terrible music as a youth. What I don't do is listen to or support those bands in any way anymore, because I'm a human with a mind and I have this ability to "grow out of things" and maybe even "change my mind about things". Why do I have to defend these bands like they're all comprised of my best friends?

Is it holier than thou of me to...not be the same person I used to be? Change and grow and mature as a person? Make sense out of that. Again, it's not about lying what you used to believe or like as a kid, it's still believing or liking it and refusing to grow as a person.

I ask, again, why is music the only form of media this ridiculous standard is applied?

I didn't say you had to defend them. I said it was stupid to make fun of people for still having nostalgia of things they used to listen to. I didn't say you still had to listen to anything you don't want to. I still enjoy Slick Shoes every now and then, even if I probably wouldn't be drawn to a band that sounds just like them if they popped in my mailbox today. My music collection is a photo album. I don't see why its so offensive to you to look at one's growing pains.

[shoulderthing]

Why is it stupid for me to live differently than you? You're literally saying that people should wear their failure on their sleeve because that's something to be proud of. I'm very sorry I don't have nostalgia for terrible music I used to listen to.

No one has yet to answer why music is the only medium this happens in.

[lokithelion]

Why is it stupid for me to live differently than you? You're literally saying that people should wear their failure on their sleeve because that's something to be proud of. I'm very sorry I don't have nostalgia for terrible music I used to listen to.

No one has yet to answer why music is the only medium this happens in.

Why is it stupid for me to live differently than you? Neither of us is wrong homeslice

[axlrose]

Why is it stupid for me to live differently than you? You're literally saying that people should wear their failure on their sleeve because that's something to be proud of. I'm very sorry I don't have nostalgia for terrible music I used to listen to.

No one has yet to answer why music is the only medium this happens in.

Plenty of adults own copies of films the loved as kids (Ninja Turtles, The GI Joe Movie etc.), despite the fact they're silly from an objective view point. I know more adults with Shel Silverstein books than kids, even though the only reason they own them is because they loved them as children.

It's not right or wrong to do either way. I listen to a lot of bands that I did when I was younger and I probably don't listen to just as many or more. It's how you opt to let the experience of the medium impact you. I can still listen and enjoy certain songs that evoke certain emotions from when I was 14 and I can listen to a Garth Brooks song and cringe that I ever enjoyed it. It's all a personal choice.

[jimmythescumbag]

Why is it stupid for me to live differently than you? You're literally saying that people should wear their failure on their sleeve because that's something to be proud of. I'm very sorry I don't have nostalgia for terrible music I used to listen to.

No one has yet to answer why music is the only medium this happens in.

Plenty of adults own copies of films the loved as kids (Ninja Turtles, The GI Joe Movie etc.), despite the fact they're silly from an objective view point. I know more adults with Shel Silverstein books than kids, even though the only reason they own them is because they loved them as children.

It's not right or wrong to do either way. I listen to a lot of bands that I did when I was younger and I probably don't listen to just as many or more. It's how you opt to let the experience of the medium impact you. I can still listen and enjoy certain songs that evoke certain emotions from when I was 14 and I can listen to a Garth Brooks song and cringe that I even enjoyed it. It's all a personal choice.

Well, then you must also be an idiot. Am I getting it?????

Seriously though, different strokes for different folks...period.

[blanketbyday]

Posting in an epic thread,

I would also like to say that i love it when i see a band and they have not only their lp's but a small selection of stuff from friends or other bands on the same label.

phil elverum is punk rock.

[mcnail]

I would like to invest in a copy of this thread printed across a stoughton tip-on gatefold jacket.

[Guest afsdan]

Red Scare constantly mentions how bands might get pissed if they have to 'compete' with distros at shows, or by having to carry their label's catalog with them, yet constantly fails to actually name names.

but never fails to sound like an idiot

and if any band on my label didn't want to carry their label-mates shit with them (and yes...make a little money off of it), then they are fucking stupid. the better any band on the label does, the better we all do.

[lokithelion]

Red Scare constantly mentions how bands might get pissed if they have to 'compete' with distros at shows, or by having to carry their label's catalog with them, yet constantly fails to actually name names.

but never fails to sound like an idiot

and if any band on my label didn't want to carry their label-mates shit with them (and yes...make a little money off of it), then they are fucking stupid. the better any band on the label does, the better we all do.

Man if only Toby Redscare had any experience touring, running a label, or working with bands he'd be able to see through the bullshit he's sayin.

[vinyljunkie]

experience =/= smartness.

at least not in all cases. besides, this isnt an issue of experience speaks. its an issue of attitude. no one said that redscare dude HASNT toured or DOESNT know what its like to be a road warrior. so what if the dude has more road experience than the rest of the board combined. doesnt make his attitude towards things any more right/wrong. if anything its made him more jaded and out of touch.

EDIT: besides, if its experience you are looking towards, keep in mind that everyone who has disagreed with redscare here has all been upper 20's or into their 30's. all have ran independent labels, and/or distros, have been in independent touring bands, and all have done so for 10+ years. its not exactly the young and naive challenging the old wise one.

[redscare]

Red Scare constantly mentions how bands might get pissed if they have to 'compete' with distros at shows, or by having to carry their label's catalog with them, yet constantly fails to actually name names.

but never fails to sound like an idiot

and if any band on my label didn't want to carry their label-mates shit with them (and yes...make a little money off of it), then they are fucking stupid. the better any band on the label does, the better we all do.

Constantly? The only thing I have "constantly" mentioned is that I DO distro my stuff when I go out with Red Scare bands and the bands I work don't mind either.

The ONLY thing I said and ever said is that I could understand if bands didn't want to bother with selling other people's shit. Maybe it's a hassle, maybe it'll cut into their merch sales. Either way, I don't see it as a major crime against the punk community if you don't want to do it. As for "naming names" (what, so you could crucify a band for not abiding by YOUR punk code? :), I don't have any names, because I don't know of any bands.

Jesus Christ, people.