American Hardcore

[jhulud]

I finally watched this documentary this past weekend. Good film. I have read the book that it's based off of but watching in and hearing the music is a completely different experience.

The only thing that kinda sucked about it was the exclusion of The Dead Kennedys and The Misfits.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Hardcore_%28film%29

[riddle350]

I really need to see this.

[jhulud]

I watched it at like 2am as I was checking out the OnDemand choices on my local cable. I saw it and immediately selected it to watch it.

[ps]

My wife and I saw it this past weekend, and we both enjoyed it. I don't know why they left out DK though. Its playing on Starz movie channel, so if you got it keep an eye out.

[sgoodcore]

I was surprised the focus was so heavily Bad Brains and Minor Threat/Dischord/Ian but it was good

[jacobe]

I enjoyed it, but they skip over a majority of the midwest.

[jhulud]

I was surprised the focus was so heavily Bad Brains and Minor Threat/Dischord/Ian but it was good

And Black Flag.

I guess in the grand scheme of the genre, those three bands are considered the forefathers of hardcore punk.

DK and Misfits were left out due to some legal issues with using the name and footage and nonsense like that. Understandable.

[robotnerd]

yeah, they left out a lot... but i still LOVED it.

i was surprised they left out the minutemen. they're not "hardcore" persey, but still... i mean, mike watt was in it... but very very little mention of the minutemen.

[oakland]

As a director you've got to make choices, otherwise the film would be six hours long. I think leaving the Minutemen out was a no-brainer. If you're doing a film called American Hardcore, your first place to cut is bands that are from other countries and bands that aren't hardcore bands.

As far as leaving out the Dead Kennedys and the Misfits, I'm a little confused by that choice too. You could argue that neither are truly hardcore bands I guess. I think that's pushing it though.

I though the whole thing was a little boring honestly. It was such a "good ol' days' sort of film. I personally am not one to live in the past and to constantly complain about the new wave of bands or whatever. It happened, let's move on.

[Guest scriptedrain]

It looks like a good watch, but I think Oakland is right on a couple things. You can't have everything in there, someone will always complain about exclusions and inclusions in any documentary, and it's cool to look back on periods of time, but sometimes it's best to leave those times where they are and reflect rather than yearn.

- Jeff

[kirbypuckett]

I really enjoyed this documentary.

I want to pick up the book.

[sgoodcore]

As a director you've got to make choices, otherwise the film would be six hours long. I think leaving the Minutemen out was a no-brainer. If you're doing a film called American Hardcore, your first place to cut is bands that are from other countries and bands that aren't hardcore bands.

As far as leaving out the Dead Kennedys and the Misfits, I'm a little confused by that choice too. You could argue that neither are truly hardcore bands I guess. I think that's pushing it though.

I though the whole thing was a little boring honestly. It was such a "good ol' days' sort of film. I personally am not one to live in the past and to constantly complain about the new wave of bands or whatever. It happened, let's move on.

While it might have been reminiscent for some I think it serves as a good introduction for others who weren't around or who weren't listening at that time.

[jhulud]

I really enjoyed this documentary.

I want to pick up the book.

The book is good. It's more in-depth than the film. But since in an interview style, it does get rather annoying...

[oakland]

Dance of Days is a great book too, if you're interested in the D.C. scene.

[jhulud]

Dance of Days is a great book too, if you're interested in the D.C. scene.

I actually liked that one better than American Hardcore. I was not completely familiar with the DC scene and this book was a good introduction especially with the smaller and lesser known bands.

[oakland]

The author is a really nice guy too. On a side note, he stayed with us on his book tour for that book, and he was supposed to leave D.C. on Sept. 11, 2001. He was sitting in his plane, on the runway, when they suddenly told everyone they had to get off. They evacuated the plane right there on the runway and when they got out, of course, there was smoke everywhere from the Pentagon being hit. It's right across the river from Reagan (national).

[tommytumult]

The Dead Kenndys and the Misfits were left out because of legal reasons. They mentioned it in the commentary on the DVD.

[Guest falloutcollapse]

this makes me wonder. in a few 10 years, will there be a movie out called American Emo?

[jhulud]

this makes me wonder. in a few 10 years, will there be a movie out called American Emo?

I cringe at the thought...

[matt]

this makes me wonder. in a few 10 years, will there be a movie out called American Emo?

if its about emabrace, rites of spring, hwm, elliot, moss icon, evergreen, indian summer, sdre, mineral, and braid then im all for it

i think this movie does a good take of what hardcore is/was during that time period. obviously DK and the misfits would be in here if they ccould be. id have liked to see more midwest stuff with poison idea but i understand that obviously black flag, bad brains, and minor threat are going to be the main focus.

[sgoodcore]

this makes me wonder. in a few 10 years, will there be a movie out called American Emo?

if its about emabrace, rites of spring, hwm, elliot, moss icon, evergreen, indian summer, sdre, mineral, and braid then im all for it

here fucking here

[born2bleed]

I also watched this over the weekend as well and I really loved it as well... gonna pick up the dvd and book soon I think.

[mrc]

i was lucky and saw this at the artsy movie theatre in town. Good Stuff

[xlovecolouredx]

i fucking like this documentary.

no copy right or distributor in thailand import it for sell but i bought pirate from weekend market.

and it's too stupid that the seller put it in porn film and he never know this is music documentary.

anyway,i still wanna collect it as original dvd.

uh,have you ever watch a film name 'threat' ?

is it good ?

[scottheisel]

i fucking like this documentary.

no copy right or distributor in thailand import it for sell but i bought pirate from weekend market.

and it's too stupid that the seller put it in porn film and he never know this is music documentary.

Haha, so the pirate DVD seller filed the movie in the porno section? That's hilarious! And what were you doing looking in the porno section anyway, hmm?