burntwolf Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 I came across an article a while back that talked about different audio quality of vinyl and it said someone had done some kind of tests and determined that white vinyl sounded the worst. Does anyone know what that was from and can point me in the direction of the article again? I'm not sure if was total BS or what either. I don't remember if they said why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottheisel Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 I think we all say that on this board because Virgil wrote it once a few months back in one of his State of The Union pieces or something. I've never seen any "official" thing saying it, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memoryloss Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 I've heard that before too, but never put it o the test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xfedaykinx Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 i heard people say everything from white to clear to clear red. im not sure how much i buy any of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robotnerd Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 i've always heard that clear colors sound worst... but i've never had any copies side by side to taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flood Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 its probably moot unless you're playing your records on a $1000 table. thru a $1000 amp, with $1000 speakers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steventangent Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 I think we all say that on this board because Virgil wrote it once a few months back in one of his State of The Union pieces or something. I've never seen any "official" thing saying it, though. I heard it from someone a couple of years ago. I'll have to go back and read that SotU again. I just don't like it because it's tacky. If anything, I'd guess that clear is probably the worst and black is the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakland Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 We talked about his on the Deathwish site a while back. A guy I know runs a label in Atlanta and he never puts out colored vinyl because he thinks it sounds like shit. Jake Bannon, who knows a lot about all of this, said there is some truth to the claims that white and clear sound worse because they are the most degraded form of vinyl. Black is supposedly the best because it is pure. Now, can you tell the difference? I feel like I can. I prefer black vinyl. Some of the color vinyl DGC did in the '90s, for example, sounded terrible. Color vinyl certainly wasn't developed for it's sound quality but rather it's aesthetic quality. If you want audiophile-quality music, buy 180 gram black. Honstly though, with the kind of music most of us listen to, it doesn't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aarondanger Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 yea but it looks cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattisr1984 Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 i dont know if this is true or not but i have converge - you fail me on white and its sound is not so good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xfedaykinx Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 i always thought thickness had more to do with sound quality than color. i know all of my 180g and 220g vinyl sound amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrc Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 i have a few records on white vinyl and the sound quality never bothered me. i have heard of this in the past but it seems a little strange that one particlue color would sound worse than any other. But i guess i know very little about all the specifics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Admin Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 I got this bit of information about white being the worst fidelity from my pressing plant. I dont' have any data to support this and honestly, I don't have the ears to say whether or not this is the case. I think that you would need some really good ears and probably a killer record player to tell the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgoodcore Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 I would be willing to bet 180g white sounds better than 140/160 black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burntwolf Posted September 25, 2007 Author Share Posted September 25, 2007 ah, ok. that state of the union must be where i had read it, and what i was thinking of. i've never noticed any diff between colors, i just wanted to find out where i read it so i could check it out again. i must have got it mixed up w/ this other article i read around the same time about the whole remastering/loudness wars: http://www.chicagomasteringservice.com/loudness.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xfedaykinx Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 ah, ok. that state of the union must be where i had read it, and what i was thinking of.i've never noticed any diff between colors, i just wanted to find out where i read it so i could check it out again. i must have got it mixed up w/ this other article i read around the same time about the whole remastering/loudness wars: http://www.chicagomasteringservice.com/loudness.html yeah, i posted that a long whiles back. pretty interesting stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebunk Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Someone should start a thread on www.recordcollectorsguild.com. There are some true audiophile nuts on there (not to say there are none here) that have been collecting for many years and have some crazy setups. I amsure they would be willing to chime in on this topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakland Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 I bet 140 g. black sounds better than white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephanttttt Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 this is interesting. i was listening to white vinyl last night. sounded fine. im sure its pretty to tell the difference. but definitely 180 g is best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakland Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 I think weight of the vinyl is secondary to production / mastering and quality of vinyl. Just my opinion, but I'm sure people in the know would back me up. Or would they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steventangent Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 I think weight of the vinyl is secondary to production / mastering and quality of vinyl. Just my opinion, but I'm sure people in the know would back me up. Or would they? backed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xunspokenliesx Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 I think weight of the vinyl is secondary to production / mastering and quality of vinyl. Just my opinion, but I'm sure people in the know would back me up. Or would they? backed. Yah, if the vinyl isn't mastered for 180g, it's gonna sound like shit. That's why I'm always leery of putting forth money for 180g records unless I know they've been mastered correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burntwolf Posted September 26, 2007 Author Share Posted September 26, 2007 has anyone listened to icky thump on vinyl? i have it but i haven't got around to cracking it yet. it was the first one made from 1" analog tape or something like that. i can't remember where i read about how that was made either now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest scriptedrain Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 I can tell the difference between a 192 and 320 kbps mp3, but I can't tell with records. - Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclz Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 when my american steel comes in it will be one on white and the other version will be that standard black. i'll give it a listen and check it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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