Vinyl Fury Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 @Vinyl Fury what was disappointing about it? I've been meaning to pick up a copy of this MoV version for a while now. Sounded like it was a pressing of the CD, flat sound. Its not 'awful' but its not great. Gatefold was cheap too. For $30 it just isn't worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb412 Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 did we ever get any confirmation that SRC's Frogstomp vinyl is only 180 gram for the black? I want the neon but 180 gram takes precedence... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gentlesenator Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 did we ever get any confirmation that SRC's Frogstomp vinyl is only 180 gram for the black? I want the neon but 180 gram takes precedence... precedence over what, for what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyZPD Posted March 14, 2013 Author Share Posted March 14, 2013 Precedence, meaning the more important factor.. In other words, they'll be purchasing the 180 because THAT is more desirable than the neon green vinyl.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylemurder Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 did we ever get any confirmation that SRC's Frogstomp vinyl is only 180 gram for the black? I want the neon but 180 gram takes precedence... Pretty sure it's 500 neon green (standard weight), 500 180 gram black. That said I have zero confirmation of that statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb412 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Precedence, meaning the more important factor.. In other words, they'll be purchasing the 180 because THAT is more desirable than the neon green vinyl.. yep, this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gentlesenator Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Precedence, meaning the more important factor.. In other words, they'll be purchasing the 180 because THAT is more desirable than the neon green vinyl.. i'm asking you why it's more desirable, not what the definition of precedence is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattisr1984 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 did we ever get any confirmation that SRC's Frogstomp vinyl is only 180 gram for the black? I want the neon but 180 gram takes precedence... email them and ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcvinyl Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 180 Gram Black, Regular weight neon green. Hope that helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Steveston Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 i'm asking you why it's more desirable, not what the definition of precedence is. It's more desirable for a few reasons: Coloured vinyl often sounds like ass. Or more aptly "like someone threw a piece of cloth over it", as someone once described it. Certainly not always, but I have enough of them to not bother if given the choice. 180 gm produces -arguably- better sound (more to work with/deeper, more accurate grooves, cleaner plastic -- who knows) and is considered audiophile grade. Some call it a marketing ruse; some don't. Last but not least, the simple fact that it's heavier will likely yield a longer life time, less chance of warping, etc. #2 post on this forum echoes/sums up a similar thought: http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/cd-bd-dvd-music-vinyl-records/3870-what-180-gram-vinyl.html Now if only a pre-order option existed for that edition... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgato48 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 It's more desirable for a few reasons: Coloured vinyl often sounds like ass. Or more aptly "like someone threw a piece of cloth over it", as someone once described it. Certainly not always, but I have enough of them to not bother if given the choice. 180 gm produces -arguably- better sound (more to work with/deeper, more accurate grooves, cleaner plastic -- who knows) and is considered audiophile grade. Some call it a marketing ruse; some don't. Last but not least, the simple fact that it's heavier will likely yield a longer life time, less chance of warping, etc. #2 post on this forum echoes/sums up a similar thought: http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/cd-bd-dvd-music-vinyl-records/3870-what-180-gram-vinyl.html Now if only a pre-order option existed for that edition... amnstypls 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinyl Fury Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 180 gram records do not have deeper grooves. They are made from the same stampers as lower weight records. The only sonic advantage of a 180 gram record would be if it is virgin vinyl, which it is supposed to be. And techincally, black vinyl is colored vinyl. Vinyl is clear, graphite is added which makes it black. If a colored record 'sounds like ass' it most likely not because it is on colored vinyl, it's because it is mastered or cut like ass. gentlesenator, King Steveston, synapsistapped and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinyl Fury Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 by the way, not trying to call you out personally, King Steveston. just addressing the misconceptions about 180 gram vinyl, and records in general, that many of us have. King Steveston 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachblows Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 180 gram records do not have deeper grooves. They are made from the same stampers as lower weight records. The only sonic advantage of a 180 gram record would be if it is virgin vinyl, which it is supposed to be. And techincally, black vinyl is colored vinyl. Vinyl is clear, graphite is added which makes it black. If a colored record 'sounds like ass' it most likely not because it is on colored vinyl, it's because it is mastered or cut like ass. I've been meaning to say this same thing on so many occasions on here lately! Vinyl Fury 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gentlesenator Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 It's more desirable for a few reasons: Coloured vinyl often sounds like ass. Or more aptly "like someone threw a piece of cloth over it", as someone once described it. Certainly not always, but I have enough of them to not bother if given the choice. 180 gm produces -arguably- better sound (more to work with/deeper, more accurate grooves, cleaner plastic -- who knows) and is considered audiophile grade. Some call it a marketing ruse; some don't. Last but not least, the simple fact that it's heavier will likely yield a longer life time, less chance of warping, etc. #2 post on this forum echoes/sums up a similar thought: http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/cd-bd-dvd-music-vinyl-records/3870-what-180-gram-vinyl.html Now if only a pre-order option existed for that edition... 180 gram records do not have deeper grooves. They are made from the same stampers as lower weight records. The only sonic advantage of a 180 gram record would be if it is virgin vinyl, which it is supposed to be. And techincally, black vinyl is colored vinyl. Vinyl is clear, graphite is added which makes it black. If a colored record 'sounds like ass' it most likely not because it is on colored vinyl, it's because it is mastered or cut like ass. yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Steveston Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 I thought this sounded somewhat likely: "180 Gram" refers to the mass of the glob of vinyl (called a biscuit) that usedto press the disc. One twenty and 150 gram pressings are thinner, and hencecannot be cut as deep as a 180 gram pressing. The deeper the cut, the moremusical information that can be contained in the groove." But fair enough. I, and many others, stand a little corrected. Though, virgin non-recycled vinyl's often what ends up in the black releases. And at the end of the day, more coloured purchases I've made do sound shittier, so when opting for the 180gr and/or black whenever possible, one does potentially avoid crap. In doing so, I've never been let down. This would likely explain the other fellow's "precedence" remark. However, since the black's sold out for this release, I just ordered Neon Green despite everything else!... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bortx Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 damn, I missed this, and now it is sold out... <stupidQuestion>Any chance to have the neon green in the future, maybe more copies in stock?</stupidQuestion> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youmightbewrong Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 damn, I missed this, and now it is sold out... <stupidQuestion>Any chance to have the neon green in the future, maybe more copies in stock?</stupidQuestion> It's not really a stupid question. SRC usually has overages from the plant. Very likely that more will be going up after they are in hand, or they know the actual numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bortx Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 It's not really a stupid question. SRC usually has overages from the plant. Very likely that more will be going up after they are in hand, or they know the actual numbers. you were right, neon green is back in stock and I was able to grab one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisWithanF Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 you were right, neon green is back in stock and I was able to grab one Was just about say that SRC sent out emails saying that they found a few additional copies. Glad you were able to get one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
californiaflow Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 180 gram records do not have deeper grooves. They are made from the same stampers as lower weight records. The only sonic advantage of a 180 gram record would be if it is virgin vinyl, which it is supposed to be. And techincally, black vinyl is colored vinyl. Vinyl is clear, graphite is added which makes it black. If a colored record 'sounds like ass' it most likely not because it is on colored vinyl, it's because it is mastered or cut like ass. When I was getting quotes to press the YMAEWK record, they told us we would have to buy two sets of stampers if we wanted 180G; one set cut for standard weight and one set cut with deeper grooves for the 180G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 When I was getting quotes to press the YMAEWK record, they told us we would have to buy two sets of stampers if we wanted 180G; one set cut for standard weight and one set cut with deeper grooves for the 180G. Ding ding ding! Correct! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youmightbewrong Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Damn this looks great. Exactly how I hoped it would turn out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amnstypls Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Fucking beautiful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serum7 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Nice. Now let's work on Freakshow & Diorama and I'm good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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