Shinji Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I've been using this new brush that works decently well to get the dust off of my records, and it's supposed to be anti-static, yet every time that I use it, my record gets so damn static-filled that it sticks right to the slip mat when I flip the record, making it a major pain in the ass to clean both sides. Is this normal? Am I somehow not grounding it correctly? Here's the brush that I bought: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D8DYQM4/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i03?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Any help would rock, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trott3r Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Earth the carbon fibre brush by touching something that is grounded like a radiator. Higher humidity also helps reduce static if you have a humidifier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwhitmuzik Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I have the same issue. I asked and apparently slipmats as a whole just suck, far better just to get a cork or antistatic slipmat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David The Gnome Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I have the same issue. I asked and apparently slipmats as a whole just suck, far better just to get a cork or antistatic slipmat. What is stopping anyone to buy a sheet of cork and make a slipmat themselves for cheaper than advertised? This is an honest question. Does the cork need to be treated somehow before use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidamnesiac Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 What is stopping anyone to buy a sheet of cork and make a slipmat themselves for cheaper than advertised? This is an honest question. Does the cork need to be treated somehow before use? I don't think the cork is special in any way. I even think there was a thread a while back where someone bought cork from Home Depot and tried to make their own. If I remember right, they gave up because the result was too messy. It's really hard to cut and make it look good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 What is stopping anyone to buy a sheet of cork and make a slipmat themselves for cheaper than advertised? This is an honest question. Does the cork need to be treated somehow before use? People do this all the time. Cutting it/creating the correct position for the spindle is people's biggest deterrent. But... cork is cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipsterasfolk Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 trace record, cut cork, and use on table? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3arl Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Yeah I did the cork thing and it was no big deal. If you buy the sticky cork mat and cut it to size you can stick it right to the platter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 trace record, cut cork, and use on table? Essentially, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidamnesiac Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Wait a second. Is this too thick? http://www.homedepot.com/p/Gardener-s-Blue-Ribbon-12-Inch-Cork-Mat-CM12DI/100615664#.UcNH6_b70TY *Edit Looks like it works. http://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/vt.mpl?f=vinyl&m=888849 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinch Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 How thick is that? It can cause a lot of problems if your arm doesn't have a VTA adjustment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 The average mat is about 1-3mm. Pro-Ject's Cork It is 1.5mm. That cork you posted is 7.95mm. You would definitely need to adjust your VTA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidamnesiac Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Figured it was a little too thick. One of the major downfalls of the Debut's design is the lack of VTA adjustment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinch Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Yeah, but since a solid VTA adjustment costs the same as this entire table, it's a downfall that's easy to forgive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidamnesiac Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Yeah, but since a solid VTA adjustment costs the same as this entire table, it's a downfall that's easy to forgive Totally. And I'd be bummed about being limited in cart options if the table wasn't designed to fit the 2M line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Loyd Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I bought one of the Vinyl Collective slipmats on ShopRadioCast and it was crazy thin. Like half the thickness of the Audio Technica slipmat that came with my turntable. Is is ok to use on its own or should I just pop it on top of my Audio technica mat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David The Gnome Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 People do this all the time. Cutting it/creating the correct position for the spindle is people's biggest deterrent. But... cork is cheap. I went ahead and bought a 2' x 4' sheet of 3/32" thick cork and went through with making some slipmats. I used my felt slipmat as a template and traced the outside and the spindle hole, easy peezy. Cutting the mat with a rotary knife blade was also a breeze. After cutting the shape, I ironed the cork on a low-medium setting until it was perfectly flat. I felt a few rough spots in the cork so I went ahead and sanded it a bit until it was nice and smooth. I cleaned the dust off as well as I could with a few towels/rags and then went over it with tape and pealed it up to remove more of the residue. After this I plattered it up and gave it a shot with an older record that was quite clean and it sounded great. I compared by switching the cork mat out with my felt mat and I feel like the cork sounded less noisy but I'm sure I was hearing what I wanted to hear in that regard. The only problem I'm faced with is that the cork mat is still leaving a little cork dust/residue on the side of the record that it's touching. It cleans up fine with a brush, just like any other dust would but I'd like to solve this a little better before making any more. Any recommendations? edit: I went ahead and used an old discwasher that my dog got a hold of, directly on the cork mat and after a number of passes I noticed a disparity in the amount of dust I was picking up from the mat from before and after placing a record on it and giving it a little while to spin, there was minimal residue left. Also tried one of the records that has consistently held a lot of static in my collection and it sounded significantly cleaner on the cork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylo234 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 So if I were to get a cork mat (like the pro-ject one) that is 1.5mm, I wouldn't have to adjust anything on my debut carbon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3arl Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 So if I were to get a cork mat (like the pro-ject one) that is 1.5mm, I wouldn't have to adjust anything on my debut carbon? The only thing you'd want to adjust (VTA) you can't adjust on the Carbon. So in short, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylo234 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Would it affect anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinch Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 In short: barely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtcohenour Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I have the same issue. I asked and apparently slipmats as a whole just suck, far better just to get a cork or antistatic slipmat. I purchased a heavy rubber slipmat and found that It cut down on static significantly for my turntable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xthricex Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Taking the convo back to anti static brushes if I may. Is there a good way to clean the brushes off after continued use? Everytime I've cleaned in the last month the brush leaves a lot of particles from the brush not the record (too much static?)behind and it's almost impossible to get it well cleaned without over cleaning the record. I have a pfanstiehl brush and fluid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I just got my set-up, and in preparation for it I bought the DAK Anti Static brush off amazon after hearing horror stories about just about every other brush. Now on the 5th-8th use and already: Static is also an issue for me too, even when I ground the brush on something. I emailed the company. EDIT: The customer service rep got back to me and wasn't any help. He claimed that the bristles just needed to be reset into position using my finger, but I assured him they are gone, not just moved. He claimed that the issue is due to nothing more than normal wear and tear on the product, despite that I had used it less than 10 times. After another email, he offered to send a new one or replace it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Returned that brush in the post above and got an Audioquest brush since I saw some people people had good stuff to say about them. Most of the amazon reviews were negative though. The first LP I played was white and I noticed a crap-ton of fibers all over the LP almost instantly. Did discharge the static though. Unhappy with my anti static brush experiences thus far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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