Derek™

The difference lies in intention, I'd say. No flipper (that I know of) is going to buy an album to sit on for three years, and then attempt to sell for profit. They're in it for the immediate satisfaction. They want to make a quick buck by gouging someone who was less fortunate to obtain a copy for whatever reason, and they want a quick turnaround. No one is going to "tie up" their money for three years. A lot of records that fetch big bucks - Deja Entendu, for instance - were readily available for a long while before they sold out and became worth something. I purchased my copy of it in 2007, and sold it in 2012 for a considerable profit. It was a decision I had waffled over for quite a while, but it came down to me needing the money for bills (and records I enjoy more) than holding onto one record for nostalgia. That's not flipping -- that's reluctantly selling a cherished record that was in supply, years ago, that happened to gain value over the years. When Deja gets repressed - and assuming there's a rare variant that sells out in an hour - if I were to intentionally buy a copy to hold onto for a week, and then turn around to sell for quadruple the retail value... that is flipping. The difference seems pretty clear to me. Selling for a profit ≠ flipping.

I know the sarcasm is abundant here, but I just wanted to clarify that there's a huge difference between selling a record you've had for three years, and selling a record you've had for three weeks.

I think the chase™ is a force that far exceeds THE HOBBY. The chase™ can be applied to the many facets of life -- not just vinyl, but also women, clothing, jobs, etc. People want what they can't have. And most get bored when they finally do get it.

Certainly plausible.

I don't know if I agree with that entirely. But either way, in kess' defense, he never flaunted or bragged about it. He tried to discretely sell a copy on eBay before someone dug up his auction. If he did in fact gloat about flipping here at VC, I haven't read about it.

Love me some Com Truise. I had no idea he had new material in the works.

You may have to trudge through a few parts, but there are enough twists and turns to captivate newcomer members and VC veterans alike. I think this is one for the ages.

And you changed your eBay username while you were at it. Smooth move x2.

Drama or not, this thread is crawling towards the big 300...

Hah, really? I had never heard that, but I don't doubt it. Did they just play (record) in the studio until they nailed every section with a bit of luck, and then slap that onto the studio version? Really interesting.

I've talked to a few people who feel the same exact way. I think every musician on that album is talented as hell, and they all play with some truly impressive technicality... but parts of Volition feel less like songs and more like displays of technical prowess.

Seriously, that sounds a little sketch. Proceed with caution. At a time where new jobs are proving difficult to land for most folks, I can't say I've talked to anyone in the last couple of years who's had a new career literally fall into their lap.

Eh. I'd wholeheartedly agree that - even though PTH's back-catalog isn't exactly my cut of tea, these days - it sure is a lot of fun. Even Scurrilous, as embarrassing as it is at times, is still a pretty enjoyable pop-metal record that teeters on the cheesy side. But Volition just bores me to tears. I get the "fun" element you're referring to, but after two or three songs I'm completely over it. I do not think it is a well-rounded record in the slightest, but I can respect your opinion. It'd be boring if we all felt the same way about the album, honestly. Sometimes a fun, light-hearted listen is exactly what the doctor ordered. But in the case of Volition, I can think of a hundred other records that would still deliver the haphazard fun without making me cringe. As an interesting note, I went back and listened to the band's discography, after hearing Volition for the first time. Scurrilous is worse than I remember it being - especially some of Rody's vocals and lyrics - but moments of it are still memorable in my books. But from what I've read, a lot of folks who didn't care for Scurrilous are pretty big on the new album. So with that said... This is on key. You've got nothing to lose, and you never know what the album will do for you. I hope you don't allow my personal jadedness to scare you away from it.

The chase™.

I can't really say I'm surprised that the majority of these are still in stock. It's cool that they were pressed, but they're such niche releases. Most of their fanbase have grown out of the scene; if these were released in 2006 they would have sold out within a day.

Or in your case, an asshole regardless of what you sell.

I don't personally bat for that team, m8.

As someone who was a huge fan of Kezia, and still enjoys Fortress... no. I can't speak for everyone, but even after several generous attempts, I can't get into Volition to save my life. The songwriting is exceptionally forgettable, and I find myself deeply annoyed with Rody's lyrics this time around. (They're bad. Really bad.) His delivery is more theatrical than ever, too -- that could be a plus, six years ago, but as it stands I have zero interest in his vocal style. And Adler's drumming - while technically impressive - is dry as hell. A lot of PTH fanboys are shitting themselves at his use of double-bass, but his drumming sounds the same on 80% of the record. It just becomes such a drag for me. But my opinion seems to be in the minority on this one. I'd definitely check out the MP3s. I'd be interested to hear what you think.

No problem at all, sugar. You still DTF like a couple of horny-ass robo-vultures? ❤️

Seems like a bit of a sexist question.

If I'm reading this correctly... you're saying that Tegan & Sara, Eminem, and FOB put out a better album than The National, this year?

It's interesting. I was kind of thinking (hoping) it would go somewhere further, I suppose. Maybe a little underwhelming out of context of the record's flow, but I'm reserving judgement until I hear it pieced together with the entire album.

That Kelly Green copy of Fever Hunting is looking me square in the eyes. And groping at my crotch. Financial responsibilities will be the death of me.

Good call. Makes me rather relieved that I pulled the trigger when I did. Moose's price is going to be a tough one to top.

I think we have a winner. +1 for the sweet find.