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LP20 good til Tuesday

there's a limited deluxe version for $200: http://feiststore.com/pleasure/fe030003-feist-pleasure-deluxe-package/ sound stage direct has the regular version for $25 and you can get 20% off that with coupon code

deluxe is sold out on DM

great news!!

Funny, but… 1. it's not a bag of rocks 2. who's thanking them? 3. if this had been included with the LP as "deluxe edition" bonus content or something, people would be praising him for including nice liner notes & companion material

If I went looking through my wishlist I could show you quite a few exceptions to that statement. Are you guys just assuming the RP will be identical? Cause I don't see that stated anywhere.

oh please. I'm not sure that is even happening, but even if it's the same color, the packaging will probably be different or something. Even if it isn't, the first print is still likely to command a premium price, if that is your concern. Sometimes there is virtually no difference between one press and another, but the first is still sought-after more so than the RP.

Interesting. I got mine from PH and it was red. Shipping was excellent in case anyone was wondering - arrived in perfect condition.

I wonder how they determine what a "flipper" order is. Like where do you draw the line if you don't set a buying limit initially.

I really can't imagine that… like the whole thing. Think about it - the costs involved shipping / delivering a couple LP's at a time like that, when the total run is 500? That's a LOT of unnecessary shipping costs, and time just opening up the packages when it could just be one and done. Even if they're being hand delivered by someone that works at the shop or distributor, tons of wasted time on their part going back & forth. And then it's like "ok Nick, we got another one in. Can you please update the website AGAIN" - and then repeating that over and over again until they sell through the whole run… Talk about a lot of wasted energy. I know you're just relaying what they said but I find it kinda hard to believe that it is really happening like that. I wonder if they're just staggering them as a way to diminish scalping or something, give more people a chance to grab one instead of putting them all up at once and having them sell out in a flash.

hmm. well I haven't seen any and I think I had signed up for it at that point… but maybe I'm wrong. if they're really putting up stock 1 at a time like that, what the hell? what is the point of that, and how inefficient.

it appears that their stock notification doesn't work for shit.

I'd probably be up for that

kind of defeats the purpose of having a limited tour version

1. That's probably why they chose it, so it had some relation to Moz and people would THINK it was official. So Moz is using the image to promote some recent shows, and now he's gonna re-use that random image as the art for an old, well known Smiths song re-issue? Do you really think he would do that? 2. Again, to me sounds like a too-clever-by-half trick to make you THINK it's real. So what, that's like a thing now? Are they gonna do that for EVERY Smiths release from here on out? Or is it the type of thing you might do if you were a bootlegger trying to get one over on people… 3. Why use a WB label design from the 50's? Unless WB is going retro and using it across their entire line or something, seems weird they would just start using that now for THIS specific release, doesn't it? 4. I think that is the idea, obviously, but the part that is bizarre is that there is no official info coming from anywhere - not the band, the label, or any other sort of official source. You might think they're trying to keep it a secret to surprise people with, but that is VERY hard to do in this business these days. The only real surprise releases were digital only, and for good reason - once you send an album off to be pressed physically, whether it's vinyl CD's or whatever, that's when you start getting leaks. And those surprise releases were big anticipated albums that got a ton of publicity off the surprise of their announcement, not a random old single reissue. If this was real and they surprised people with this release, I think a lot of people would respond like "uhh, ok?" meaning it doesn't have the same impact as a NEW album, or even ONE new song. Honestly, I don't know - I could very well be wrong, I'm just basing it off my instincts having worked in the biz for awhile. Since you have bought it, you are probably experiencing confirmation bias where you WANT it to be real. I can understand that, but imagine this scenario - say it is real, but the run was something like 50,000 units. So once they actually hit the street, this record you (presumably) paid a lot for overnight declines in value exponentially. In that situation, you might prefer it was a very limited bootleg, right?

It's possible but pretty unlikely. That said, I wasn't really commenting on if it's real or not, I was speaking directly to his question about if an employee in the warehouse was stealing them and then selling before they were released - that doesn't seem very likely to me. But I would lean towards it being a fake since there is no info from the label anywhere online and it's such a random release, and the whole origin story of it just seems really shady. Why that song released as a single now? What's the significance of it? Why 3 random instrumentals on the b-side? I could be wrong though. If it was a US release I could find out in a minute if it was legit or not, but Warner UK I'm not as well connected.

You're a vinyl collector, right? Ask yourself - has that EVER happened before, that you are aware of? Like there aren't other high profile, hotly anticipated vinyl releases that factory workers would be tempted to steal & sell if they could get away with it? Then think about the logistics of pressing up a record. If you're the label, you order a certain amount pressed, maybe a few test pressings but those usually are just plain without artwork. You KNOW how many are supposed to be made cause you are making the order, and you know who you are ordering from. It's not some mystery who pressed your records. If you get your order of whatever, say 300 records and then before the release you see that someone is selling copies of it online when the run was supposed to be limited to 300, then you KNOW something fishy is going on with the pressing plant, and you would contact them, and they would take it pretty seriously as their professional reputation would be at stake. These plants aren't like factories with thousands of untraceable people working in them, and the music business is small - especially with things like this. I mean how many record pressing plants are even out there. Not that many.

I'm not sure but many companies do not delineate. Last I checked on TR these were still available… if you want to ensure you get a color variant, probably best to buy directly from them

great link - they have a bunch of good options there. I think the corrugated plastic are my favorite.

One of the reasons (at least this is true for me) that people even buy vinyl is to have & enjoy the glorious sleeve artwork. Some even frame their vinyl sleeves and put them on their wall (I do this as well). A corner ding in effect mars the "artwork". Will it detract from the actual audio? No, but if you are the type that sits there with the sleeve in hand, looking at it and reading the liner notes as you listen, then yes it can detract from the experience. Furthermore - if you're buying a record second-hand from someone and its in pristine condition, then it's a safe bet that the previous owner has taken care of the item. You can feel confident that there will be little if any issues with it. A corner ding may send the message that the previous owner was NOT as careful with the record, and maybe if he allowed the corners to be dinged, then he allowed other mishandling as well. It's not a guarantee but something to be wary of. obviously if you're talking about brand new vinyl that comes with a corner ding, then it's a bummer, but not the end of the world. My first paragraph still applies though.

I got a shipping notification from Plastic Head. Can't remember what forum it was but some were speculating the orders would be cancelled, which is apparently NOT the case, but it's still not clear what variant it is. Will see I guess.

Maybe I'm wrong but it seems as though buying through here is more expensive than joining the JF VIP and then getting the discount.

They are probably the b-sides of the 7 inches. It says there are 12 7" vinyl's that contain all the tracks from Prisoner. That's 12 b-sides to fit 17 tracks. Edit: it also says: B-sides will be sent digitally when the End of World Edition ships So I think they're both on the vinyl & digital

Seriously? This is not just "a bunch of 45's" - the thing has real working lights and sound for christ sake. Sets like this are NOT cheap or easy to produce. If it's too much for you I completely understand, but don't kid yourself about what this actually is. It's an amazing set for any fan of his. I wish some of my fav. bands would do more stuff like this.

1. Are you certain that the label owns the masters? If not, you'll need to find out who does because that is who you will need to license them from, unless the band owns them in which case you don't need to worry about the label at all. Hopefully you will be dealing with a smaller, artist-friendly label because if it's a bigger one they may not even want to bother for such a limited run - meaning they won't be making very much so it's not even worth their time to work out the licensing agreement with you. Deal with this first before anything else because it's the keystone of the project. If the band doesn't own them then ask the old label if they still do or if they sold their masters to someone else. If they have licensed anything previously than they probably have a standard contract that they will send you, not the other way around. 2. Photoshop or InDesign is what is used. You will probably just need to tweak the existing artwork for the new format. 3. This is completely up to you, but you'd usually make a decision based on a price quote for whatever it is you want to do, and then the timing of your release. A lot of pressing plants these days have longer turnarounds so to make an order today means you won't be getting your product for 6-8 months. Do you want to be in close proximity to the plant so you can pick up / deliver assets in person? Or are you willing to ship ? This is where your ability to use google and research the different options will pay off for you. There is no one size fits all answer here. Whatever plant you go with will send you templates to drop the art into so don't even worry about that for now - that is like the last of your worries really. Put the cart before the horse and deal with obtaining the masters or a license for them before you waste your time on a project you can't get off the ground.