SBarry Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I've bought a few records from various labels that went through Pirates Press and a few have this gritty almost sand like residue on the records. Usually on any that have a "haze" color variant. Just was curious if anyone else has noticed this because it's a pain to clean it off as I don't want to ruin the record or my needle during playback. EDIT: sorry just saw this has been discussed before, I'm on mobile :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funtitled Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I've bought a few records from various labels that went through Pirates Press and a few have this gritty almost sand like residue on the records. Usually on any that have a "haze" color variant. Just was curious if anyone else has noticed this because it's a pain to clean it off as I don't want to ruin the record or my needle during playback. I don't have a haze color variant,however I have a splatter that came through pirate press and a good clean made it sound fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ok. Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Most haze variants come gritty like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBarry Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 I don't have a haze color variant,however I have a splatter that came through pirate press and a good clean made it sound fine.I have a few other records they have pressed (Reaper Records usually uses them) and they are fine but I have maybe 3-4 maybe even more that when I open the record from its shrink wrap and go to listen to it I'm like wtf is this sand inside the paper sleeve?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Mike Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Most haze variants come gritty like that. This. As cool as it looks, it's often a fucking mess. Still sounds better than GitD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscodeman Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I'm like wtf is this sand inside the paper sleeve?! Yeah, same thing happened to me with a copy of MTB's Planet Of Ice clear w/ gold splatter variant. Just needed a good cleaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 On that anti-flag document of dissent lp, it was fucking gnarly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFP Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Yeah, I get that "sand in the sleeve" thing too sometimes. I have to check which records those were. I hate when that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serum7 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 What everyone has said. They're kind of known for that. Braid's haze variant of No Coast was covered in the most "sand" I've ever seen. It was like they were shipped from the beach. It brushes off fine, just feels like you're rubbing the lp with steel wool when you pull it out of the sleeve. pablod85 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockPuppetz Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I'm pretty sure haze vinyl is pressed with sand inside it to make the haze effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainaldous Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 You know when you take the record out of the sleeve and it just feels like a...bag of sand. pablod85, circuit bored records, SBarry and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBarry Posted October 29, 2014 Author Share Posted October 29, 2014 I'm pretty sure haze vinyl is pressed with sand inside it to make the haze effect. I have a half grey half yellow variant that had the same grittiness to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circuit bored records Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I'm pretty sure haze vinyl is pressed with sand inside it to make the haze effect. I'm pretty sure this is absolutely incorrect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Hundred Fifty-Two Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I thought it was a big problem with that other mega plant from Europe. Some years back all the haze ones on deathwish had it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jollyronnie Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 My Steel Panther - All You Can Eat had sand in it. I thought it was some free coke at first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeepo Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I've been under the impression that it's PVC dust that is smashed into the vinyl when it's being pressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apeman Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 The GZ Media plant is where the dust coveret records originate from. I have had plenty of those from them, but never seen any from another plant. What they do is adding vinyl mass in pulverized form, instead of the usual pellets, and that is how you get the haze effect - and the grainy residue. Why it can end up on any other records they press, is a great mystery. Can't be all that safe a workplace environment if sandy residue flows free in the air between production runs. The main problems with the dust is that the haze effect records get an annoying amount of surface noise (I still haven't heard one that sounded decent), and that it will scuff the records inside the sleeves during transit, when they move ever so slightly around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jollyronnie Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Not worth it. Just press black records. glass realms 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tre Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 We stopped doing haze variants a while ago because of this. It doesn't really cause any problems, aside from having to answer emails and board posts about it. The way that it was explained to me from Pirates is that the finer pellets that the haze needs causes a larger amount of "vinyl dust" to be kicked up and out of the hoppers or giant sacks of vinyl and that it basically fills the area around where they are pressed and gets everywhere. There also is (or was) a limit put on how many of the haze you can get pressed at once because of this. Clean off the record and it will be a-ok. Jollyronnie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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