daegor Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 As/You/Wish you need to realize that joking like that in this context is extremely offensive. I do believe you meant to harm, but the joke was at the expense of women/Madie. It's never okay to justify creepy/rude/rape-y behaviour even in a joking manner. Even when you think the joke is helping, it's just not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Ya'll just need to calm the fuck down. Sheesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aflycon Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Unless they are being a shit eating asshole. Then we refer to them as shit eating assholes...of course. Man, Joto, assholes don't eat shit. Assholes shit shit. Come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albie007 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 ^daegor....yes i realized! thx.........but now i am a creepy rapist?! Oh My! edit....but if a man suggesting to a woman that changing her picture in her profile to ward off creepy messages is "incredibly offensive" and warrants this kind of backlash than i hope something REAL happens in the world so yall can get some perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Logan Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I may be missing something but I feel like most of the men in here are feeling the same way. There are a number of dumb posts making jokes but a lot of others wondering what his reasoning for specifically wanting a woman writer is. Okay, yes. There ARE men who are questioning this as well. However, it's the women who were the subject of the situation and also the ones that comments were being made toward. When we say "women should be respected" it does not imply that men should not be respected. Us establishing that we are offended, does not take away that men can also be offended by this BUT men are not the "victims" here (for lack of a better term). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 ^daegor....yes i realized! thx.........but now i am a creepy rapist?! Oh My! edit....but if a man suggesting to a woman that changing her picture in her profile to ward off creepy messages is "incredibly offensive" and warrants this kind of backlash than i hope something REAL happens in the world so yall can get some perspective. What exactly do you hope happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Logan Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 ^daegor....yes i realized! thx.........but now i am a creepy rapist?! Oh My! edit....but if a man suggesting to a woman that changing her picture in her profile to ward off creepy messages is "incredibly offensive" and warrants this kind of backlash than i hope something REAL happens in the world so yall can get some perspective. Oh my god? Fuck you? Do you even realize what you just implied? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futures Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 ^daegor....yes i realized! thx.........but now i am a creepy rapist?! Oh My! edit....but if a man suggesting to a woman that changing her picture in her profile to ward off creepy messages is "incredibly offensive" and warrants this kind of backlash than i hope something REAL happens in the world so yall can get some perspective. You've got to be fucking kidding me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futures Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 As/You/Wish: A prime example of creepy camouflage is thinking of harassment as compliments. A good framework for this is seen in reaction to street harassment. Activist group Stop Street Harassment commissioned a national US study of 2,000 participants. The study's findings were disturbing. "The survey found that 65 percent of all women had experienced street harassment." Is that REAL enough for you? http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/11/05/hey-creeps-compliments-are-harassment-too.html Oh and also As Everyday Sexism’s Laura Bates wrote: "The men who ask you what the big deal is about street harassment, say they'd love it if it happened to them, or suggest you just 'take it as a compliment.'" But this confuses many factors: for example, it’s not women but other men making these comments. (Women can also harass, of course, but things are not equal between genders; further, I’m addressing men because, well, I am one.) Second, “compliments” are often anchored by threats—sometimes tragically carried out—if the compliments are not sufficiently acknowledged by women who “receive” them. This is, again, seen in online interaction: a woman’s rejection leads to insults and threats, as Bye Felipe notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 @asyouwish I don’t even know how this thread got turned into this. I don’t want to jump to conclusions but it sure seems like you’re hoping one of us would be sexually harassed in real life... so we get perspective? most of the women here, and most women in general, are so hypersensitive to this kind of thing because IT IS DAILY REAL LIFE for us. we get less pay, less respect, more judgement. ever wonder what it’s like to be a lady in the workforce? You don’t want to know. all of us have dealt with it on varying levels on severity. one regular here has been raped. every job I’ve ever worked i’ve seen blatant sexism and sexual harassment. my first graphic design job at 18, everyone would whisper about my one female boss’s supposed boob job, how she was desperate and dating young dudes after her divorce. if that was a divorced middle aged guy, he’d be respected for pulling some young tail. next job, a dude in the warehouse rubs my back/arm several times, always stands super close, and says things about me to his wife. and this current job has been the worst by far. jimmy will tell you I’ve come home crying more than once because I thought I dressed inappropriately for work based on what dudes in the warehouse were saying about me. think before you say stupid shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albie007 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 ^madie....wow nothing bad. poor word chioce at 5 am. just perspective. again sorry to eggs and princess.....get real and quit reading into things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futures Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 stop saying stupid shit without thinking then claiming "sorry poor word choice" Princess Logan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 So explain what you meant then? What 'real' thing do you hope happens to us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 How are you apologizing to me, and in the same breath telling egg and Logan to get real. All three of us are making the same exact point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarzioo_ Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 ^madie....wow nothing bad. poor word chioce at 5 am. just perspective. again sorry to eggs and princess.....get real and quit reading into things. Reread what you type and then maybe we won't "read into things" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albie007 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 working..i posted before i saw ur last post. u ladies/females/women (whatevers appropriate here) are assuming much on some essentially shorthand texts. of course i dont wish anything bad like the article (which i didnt read but sure its horrible) was only saying in context to what i said this reaction isnt appropriate. as far as hope? nothing like your imagination is implying! idk like more woman coming forward about bill cosby. like actual harrassment! ive never harrased any woman. i said something stupid (please read earlier posts) and apoligized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Logan Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 You know those women were DRUGGED and RAPED, correct? So you don't wish us the harm that our minds are "implying" but you continue to say you hope we experience actual harassment? News flash: most women HAVE experienced actual harassment. Telling someone that they should take a less "sexy" picture to negate unwanted attention, is saying "well maybe if you don't want to get mugged, you shouldn't carry your wallet on you." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCandless Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Came back into this thread after posting on the first page to see what I've missed. hippielauryn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futures Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 working..i posted before i saw ur last post. u ladies/females/women (whatevers appropriate here) are assuming much on some essentially shorthand texts. of course i dont wish anything bad like the article (which i didnt read but sure its horrible) was only saying in context to what i said this reaction isnt appropriate. as far as hope? nothing like your imagination is implying! idk like more woman coming forward about bill cosby. like actual harrassment! ive never harrased any woman. i said something stupid (please read earlier posts) and apoligized. "Actual harassment" STOP THINKING THERE ARE LEVELS OF HARASSMENT. Good to know that what we were reading into is really exactly what we assumed you were implying. Thanks. Now if you don't mind, I'm going to requote what I posted earlier. maybe it'll stick this time. I highly encourage you to read the article. There's no sense in remaining ignorant once you've had the proof and details laid out for you: As/You/Wish: A prime example of creepy camouflage is thinking of harassment as compliments. A good framework for this is seen in reaction to street harassment. Activist group Stop Street Harassment commissioned a national US study of 2,000 participants. The study's findings were disturbing. "The survey found that 65 percent of all women had experienced street harassment." Is that REAL enough for you? http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/11/05/hey-creeps-compliments-are-harassment-too.html Oh and also As Everyday Sexism’s Laura Bates wrote: "The men who ask you what the big deal is about street harassment, say they'd love it if it happened to them, or suggest you just 'take it as a compliment.'" But this confuses many factors: for example, it’s not women but other men making these comments. (Women can also harass, of course, but things are not equal between genders; further, I’m addressing men because, well, I am one.) Second, “compliments” are often anchored by threats—sometimes tragically carried out—if the compliments are not sufficiently acknowledged by women who “receive” them. This is, again, seen in online interaction: a woman’s rejection leads to insults and threats, as Bye Felipe notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albie007 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 ^ you ladies have a nice day. and madie ....i hope your friends in real life are just as protective! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 attempt to diffuse the situation: I think he was (poorly) saying that his comment regarding the avatar is nothing compared to "real world" stuff. not that something should happen to anyone of you personally. his grammar is just horrible. and his point is stupid too. harassment is harassment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albie007 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 AVATAR! thats the word....drunk last nite...hungover this morning. and yeah i post from a semi broken droid phone with an auto correct from hell. my thumb does all the typing....so yeah i care not for grammer! but thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhook Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Looking for a dude to write reviews, email me if interested. jasonsheperdbfl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futures Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 AVATAR! thats the word....drunk last nite...hungover this morning. and yeah i post from a semi broken droid phone with an auto correct from hell. my thumb does all the typing....so yeah i care not for grammer! but thx none of that excuses any of what you said. no amount of drink nor a broken phone would make your fingers slip on your keyboard into the perfect rhythm of degrading a woman because of a photo she chooses as her avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Avatar Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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