lemongoat Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 It's like when a player falls in the draft. You have to think, "what does everyone else believe about this player that I am missing?" I wouldn't want that contract. I would have offered a 2 year deal with vesting options that automatically kick in for performance (like scoring 100 runs), same as you would an injury prone player. Well you're comparing the most inexact science in sports - the MLB draft - with signing a player averaging 5 WAR over the last 4 seasons. And maybe just semantics, but you can't have performance based incentives i.e runs or home runs. The Braves are paying more for Upton, who has averaged under 4 WAR the last 4 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 And maybe just semantics, but you can't have performance based incentives i.e runs or home runs. The Braves are paying more for Upton, who has averaged under 4 WAR the last 4 seasons. Bossman junior, right? I don't like that deal much either. I'd rather have Bourn at $48 than BJ at $72. And my comments were not based on Bourn's past performance, only on the fact that speedy players usually do not age well. If they can get comparable production from the next 4 years as they did the last 4, it's a great deal. I found this: http://stats-dont-lie.blogspot.com/2010/03/age-study-mlb-stolen-bases.html The trend is clear. Any individual player can buck the trends but speed diminishes significantly in the early 30s. And what do you mean you can't have performance based incentives? You are saying that there is a rule against this? I'll admit I am recalling a lot more vesting options based on plate appearances but guys get bonuses all the time for making an all star game. What about A-Rod's contract, where he get's bonuses for passing the people ahead of him on the home runs list? Couldn't you just give the guy player options for the last few years with low base salary and then performance bonuses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemongoat Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 The A-Rod milestone incentives is a pretty interesting case that is probably somewhere in the middle.But the CBA does not allow performance based incentives. Whenever you see incentives or vesting options, it will always be for IP's or AB's. A perfect example is deals closers get: The clause is always "games finished" rather than saves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemongoat Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Would you guys be up for a pay league? I usually do $50 entry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 nah, never been into paying for fantasy leagues, thats just me though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemongoat Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Come onnnnnn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhook Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I might be into it. What are the payouts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 sent the league info to those interested, the idea of it being a pay league is not out, I just have not put that in the settings yet, I dont want to make decisions for everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhook Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I signed up. I like the draft time too. Am I the only one? Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I'm gonna pass. Maybe next year. 2 leagues already and I'm trying to graduate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 right on man, good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhook Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I will be in three leagues this year. All on Yahoo, should be easy to manage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMoosen Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Just signed up for the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chamb117 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 i'll try to wake up in time. i have a live auction draft that day at 2 p.m. so it wouldn't do me any good for it to be later... i'll draft from my bed and go back to sleep after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoshotthefrog Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Are there any spots open for the fantasy league? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 yeah i'll send you the info in a bit. thats not the actual draft time, I just set it on the last day, once we fill the league we'll set a day/time that works the best for as many of us as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemongoat Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Mike Trout now listed at 6'1" 240 pounds. Thats so big. Yoenis Cespedes is made of brick and is listed at 6' 215 pounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhook Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Mike Trout now listed at 6'1" 240 pounds. Thats so big. Yoenis Cespedes is made of brick and is listed at 6' 215 pounds. Thats huge. What was he last season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I'm heading into Year 8 of my Keeper League and am stacked with young talent. This might be my year. I'm a terrible Fantasy Baseball manager while being excellent at Football. It kills me. I want to compete in this league so badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 join our league dave!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemongoat Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Thats huge. What was he last season? I read he added 10-15 pounds over the winter, but this time last season he was listed at 210. Yahoo still has him listed at 200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhook Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Is Trout growing into his body or did he spend winter getting jacked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I'm heading into Year 8 of my Keeper League and am stacked with young talent. This might be my year. I'm a terrible Fantasy Baseball manager while being excellent at Football. It kills me. I want to compete in this league so badly. Who you got? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Is Trout growing into his body or did he spend winter getting jacked? He spent it catching Groupers: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/mike-trout-snags-550-pound-grouper-near-key-152616703--mlb.html I'll believe 6-1 240 when I see it. Could be a typo or something. That is NFL middle line backer size. I think middle linebackers would be so big that it would interfere with their ability to swing (as opposed to say a guy like Cabrera, where that 240 is spread out on a 6-4 frame). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemongoat Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Players adding too much mass and screwing with their swing/flexibility isn't terribly uncommon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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