RadDonut Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Great move from Miami to get Napier from the Hornets. (If it gets approved) That dude is a solid point guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Family Friendly Rap God Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Way too much for Shabazz. Especially for a team looking to get younger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Family Friendly Rap God Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Philly is going to be good in a few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrisnorris Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Welcome to the Knicks Cleanthony Early! Now it's 4:10 time for bed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintedinexile Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Philly is going to be good in a few years I agree. Charlotte could be good too. I think Denver has had the best draft so far though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3arl Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I agree. Charlotte could be good too. I think Denver has had the best draft so far though. I agree! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Family Friendly Rap God Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Welcome to the Knicks Cleanthony Early! Now it's 4:10 time for bed I'm excited about our draft! #InPhilWeTrust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewberinger Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I'm a Bulls fan through and through but my dad is a huge Bucks fan so I follow them too - really think Milwaukee drafted next year's rookie of the year and the next Melo - Parker at his peak will be a 25 and 8 guy. love the Bulls move to get McBuckets too, especially if it's another step towards getting Melo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintedinexile Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I think the end game is Melo going to the Bulls, possibly the Rockets if they can dump Lin's contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelmanfredi Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 free agency tomorrow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3arl Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 And Jason Kidd to the Bucks in probably the weirdest thing we'll see all offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 And Jason Kidd to the Bucks in probably the weirdest thing we'll see all offseason. for a 2nd rd pick in 2015 and 2019 (????) at that. nothing like trading a draft pick 4 years out for a coach. im not a fan of the NBA, but i'll say the drafting of Parker has definitely perked my interest in the Bucks now where i'll probably at least pay attention a bit more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Family Friendly Rap God Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 The Jason Kidd debacle is ridiculous. He's only been a coach for a YEAR! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewberinger Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 for a 2nd rd pick in 2015 and 2019 (????) at that. nothing like trading a draft pick 4 years out for a coach. im not a fan of the NBA, but i'll say the drafting of Parker has definitely perked my interest in the Bucks now where i'll probably at least pay attention a bit more. this gif sums up everything for the Bucks ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and 3arl 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoshotthefrog Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 The Jason Kidd debacle is ridiculous. He's only been a coach for a YEAR! I read somewhere that Kidd has some affiliation with one of the Bucks new owners. But, still fucking weak shit on his and the Bucks part. Hopefully Drew can find a new job soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintedinexile Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 If Miami is doing what I think they're doing, they need to be punished. I feel like they're going to try and circumvent the salary cap. LeBron, Wade, and Bosh opted out to restructure their deals and allow the Heat to bring in free agents. That also means that the Heat can sign whomever they want, Carmelo even, because they have Bird Rights on the Big Three, so they can go over the salary cap to resign them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carrowsmith89 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I believe that both the heat and the three set it up, so they can all opt out of the final year. If they all opted in, they would take up most of the salary cap, so it would be difficult to fill the roster. By taking less, all three stay together, and they can sign better role players. I think that they're going to go that route. Signing Carmelo would take up the most of the remaining cap, so they wouldn't be able to sign a great supporting cast. We'll have to see how much less Bosh and Wade are willing to take if James wants max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3arl Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I'm not sold on LeBron staying in Miami. I think he can see the writing on the wall with Bosh and Wade. They're only going to get worse from here on out, and he's at the top of his game. He could make more money and have a better a better chance at continued success with another team (like the Suns). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carrowsmith89 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 At this point, I feel that he is staying, but that can change once we see what else happens. Why would Wade opt out if he wasn't staying? No one else is going to pay him anywhere near the 20 million that he would have gotten if he didn't opt out. The finals exposed their biggest flaw, which was in their role players. I wouldn't want to leave the east if I were James, with the east being far weaker conference. It's so much easier of a path to get to the finals. All they would have to do is beat the western conference champ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintedinexile Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 With all of them opted out, they only have Norris Cole on contract right now. So they could sign Carmelo if they want. Cap isn't an issue, because they can sign LeBron and company to whatever they want, and can exceed the cap. It all depends if they want to pay the luxury tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Family Friendly Rap God Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 If Miami is doing what I think they're doing, they need to be punished. I feel like they're going to try and circumvent the salary cap. LeBron, Wade, and Bosh opted out to restructure their deals and allow the Heat to bring in free agents. That also means that the Heat can sign whomever they want, Carmelo even, because they have Bird Rights on the Big Three, so they can go over the salary cap to resign them. Unless you can prove that anyone from the Heat contacted or helped the Big 3, then it's not circumvention. Very hard to prove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Family Friendly Rap God Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 With all of them opted out, they only have Norris Cole on contract right now. So they could sign Carmelo if they want. Cap isn't an issue, because they can sign LeBron and company to whatever they want, and can exceed the cap. It all depends if they want to pay the luxury tax. You are forgetting the new CBA rules. If they go over the cap they lose all of their exceptions (mid-level, mini mid level), so every player they sign would have to fit under the soft cap. That's why Melo won't join the big 3. They wouldn't be able to include any type of bench. That's not to say that Melo and Bron don't form another Big 3. Either way, I don't see LBJ taking another pay cut, nor should he Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintedinexile Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 You are forgetting the new CBA rules. If they go over the cap they lose all of their exceptions (mid-level, mini mid level), so every player they sign would have to fit under the soft cap. That's why Melo won't join the big 3. They wouldn't be able to include any type of bench. That's not to say that Melo and Bron don't form another Big 3. Either way, I don't see LBJ taking another pay cut, nor should heI'm not sure that's true considering the Wolves are looking to sign someone with their MLE and are well over the cap, almost approaching the luxury tax threshold. All I'm saying is they can sign other guys, before resigning LeBron, Wade and Bosh. The Wolves did something similar last summer, by signing Brewer, Bud, and trading for Martin before resigning Pekovic. The Bird Rights rule is meant to help smaller market teams keep their players, not what the Heat could do.But then again, I'm not a salary cap expert, and perhaps the Heat lose their Bird Rights for them because they opted out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Family Friendly Rap God Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I'm not sure that's true considering the Wolves are looking to sign someone with their MLE and are well over the cap, almost approaching the luxury tax threshold. All I'm saying is they can sign other guys, before resigning LeBron, Wade and Bosh. The Wolves did something similar last summer, by signing Brewer, Bud, and trading for Martin before resigning Pekovic. The Bird Rights rule is meant to help smaller market teams keep their players, not what the Heat could do. But then again, I'm not a salary cap expert, and perhaps the Heat lose their Bird Rights for them because they opted out. The type of exceptions you have depends on your cap status. For the MLE it's like this: $5.15 million for non-taxpaying teams over the cap $3.09 million for taxpaying teams over the cap $2.575 million for teams with cap room And with the mini mid level, you lose it if you pay luxury tax. So Miami has the Big 3's Bird Rights due to them playing at least three years there, similar to the Knicks with Melo. I think we are going to see Bron taking the most and Bosh/Wade take massive paycuts if they want to stay together. If not, Bosh may be odd man out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintedinexile Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I'm surprised Wade opted out, because there's no way in hell he'll get over $20 million. He should get about half that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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