Japes Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 I don't think this is against the rules, but: http://strikegently.com/?p=39652 If it is, edit it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casey Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 I actually like this album better than their last two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtz Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 If someone had played this for me 8 years ago and told me it was future Against Me, I would not have believed them. I hate this album. Listened once, then promptly deleted. I went into it with low expectations and it's even worse than I expected.I think I can officially stop paying attention to new AM! releases/news/tours/etc now. That's pretty damn quick to judge a record. I listened to it once and I hardly remember it, but I'm not ready to write it off yet. I didn't like a single thing about it during the first listen. Some albums don't deserve multiple listens. It's not like I'm writing a review of the album or anything. Just message board bitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtw88 Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 I'm with Kurtz. My friend and I were discussing the possibility of this being some sort of elaborate joke because I heard some of these songs awhile ago and they weren't so vanilla sounding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cesar11 Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 after listening to it times, I've come to that conclusion that it's not that bad. They wanna evolve and from the sound of it they kinda want to go for the rock/arena band thing just like Green Day did with American Idiot. But not gonna lie, some songs are hard to listen to due to Tom's vocal change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minty Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 i like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goraiders Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 I think I like it more than new wave, even though that had higher highs it had much lower lows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brentoage Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 i like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alertthemute Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 It was utter garbage. Sad to say it, but I didn't like a single thing about it. Didn't even have high expectations either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goraiders Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 what ska song does the opening to high pressure low sound like? i always throw horns in around :05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cesar11 Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 to me, the 4 seconds of bass sounds Cure-ish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedavidescapeplan Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 It's ridiculous how much "Because of the Shame" sounds like "No Surrender" by Springsteen. At least it does to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goraiders Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 It's ridiculous how much "Because of the Shame" sounds like "No Surrender" by Springsteen. At least it does to me. definitely until the verses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
destroyingthescene Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Well my 1-year old son seems to like it so far. Haven't made it through the whole album yet, but it seems pretty safe. I could also see a couple of these songs make some money for them, so I guess that's good. Looking at the trajectory the band has taken, I can't say I'm surprised by the sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raistlinn Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 I don't know guys, but it's catchy as hell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riddle350 Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 I don't think it's a joke. So many people said that about New Wave the first time they heard it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattstrike Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 It's ridiculous how much "Because of the Shame" sounds like "No Surrender" by Springsteen. At least it does to me. Haha! Yes it does - listen to the lyrics carefully and you hear Tom paraphrasing Springsteen, almost word for word in some parts. Edit: Overall, I am torn. There are two killer songs on this album; not killer AM! songs, just killer songs - as in, if Bon Jovi wrote them in the exact same way, I'd listen to them and like them. The rest of the album is growing on me, I'd say there is only one song that I can't really get all the way through. I can understand the comparison to Green Day's trajectory, the key difference being American Idiot still sounds pretty much 95% like their earlier songs, while White Crosses sounds almost (~20%) nothing like what came before it. That is an important factor to consider, before assigning AM! to the waste-bin. At the very least - even though I may not like White Crosses as much as …Clarity - Tom and the guys are trying to expand their song-writing, and not just employing their earlier "formula" while applying a glossy veneer. As the saying goes, you can polish a turd - but it's still a turd. That said, I would have loved to been a fly on the wall while they were recording and engineering this. Of course we can ask Tom how he came to decide when and where to employ studio tricks, but to have been there the moment the decision was made would be much more telling. I think the song writing still sounds top notch - it's just the production that is throwing me off here. The excessive compression (well, that's nothing new), the multi-tracked vocals everywhere, the auto-tune, the gate, etc. - I know Butch Vig can be a royal pain in the ass (he is known for taking weeks to get a floor tom to sound "right"), and he seems diametrically opposed to the very nature of AM!. He's the guy that gets called in to "make a hit" - and that right there is the biggest difference between AM!–present and AM!–past. My impression is that AM!–past chose the producers they were going to work with based on something much more organic and honest than "making a hit". If that's what Tom wanted for AM!, fine - who am I (or any of us, really) to question his plans for his band - however, if it was the label's decision to bring in Vig… I think that it's a shame if the band gave up creative control. Last night I pulled out a few Vig produced albums to listen to and my first thought was: He is the unofficial 5th member of Against Me! on White Crosses. He definitely leaves a sonic mark on everything he touches, and sometimes that is exactly what seems to be needed, but I'm not convinced it was the right sound for Tom's writing. Asking Tom about this now will most definitely garner a response much different than if I'd been a fly on the wall, as he has the advantage of hindsight, and I don't doubt a fair bit of hubris as well. What it comes down to is, for me, if this is how they wanted their album to sound, if it is the end result they dreamed about during writing, rehearsing and putting it on tape, then good for them. Luckily, it's not coming out on 8 track, so listening to only the songs I like will be a piece of cake! I just wish it wasn't compressed to fucking hell - I still like dynamics in my music. One last thing - who else thinks the intro to High Pressure Low was lifted straight off of a New Order single? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamlikesmusic Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Even if the band had made the best record ever, people would've complained about it. Against Me! is just one of those bands now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartcat Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Can someone PM me a link if its still up? I'm curious as hell now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamlikesmusic Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Can someone PM me a link if its still up? I'm curious as hell now. Did you try the links at the top of the page? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartcat Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Didn't even see that, thanks Adam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 wait, did scott download this? thats funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rottentone Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Bamboo Bones is in my opinion the best song on the album and the rest are just mediocre. If you listen to Green Day's 21st Century Breakdown (Vig produced) and then listen to White Crosses they sound exactly the same with all the fancy effects and classic rock and 80's elements. Vig is a good producer but I think he is just trying to make a Green Day jr. out of AM and dont get me wrong I love Green Day but I think its sad that AM wouldnt want to do things differently. Maybe this shit album is the reason AM's drummer left and started a new band with Blake from Jawbreaker.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jurrobear Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Maybe this shit album is the reason AM's drummer left and started a new band with Blake from Jawbreaker.... Wrong drummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayeffscene Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 this is basicaly their Warning. Even sounds like Tom is singing like Bille Joe This has made me more intrigued than anything else in this thread. Warning was so good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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