exitenglish1208 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 so if you die in a dream level above the one you're "awake" in, do you stay in the lower one until you die? for instance if they all drowned in the van but hadn't gotten the kick from the lower levels would they have stayed in the hotel/snow/limbo etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclz Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Yeah, I believe so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcm1610 Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 Is it necessarily until death, or can you wake up at the end of whatever time? It just seems like forever due to the multiplied time intervals. The Asian guy aged so much because they were so many levels in that the time that passed was decades in length. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclz Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Inception-Explained-Unraveling-The-Dream-Within-The-Dream-19615.html According to here, he aged because he didn't know he was in limbo, whereas Leo did know so he stayed youthful, but Leo and Mal aged the 1st time they went there because they weren't aware it was limbo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/07/inceptions_dileep_rao_answers.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monk0nuggets Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 That was a good interview. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exitenglish1208 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 yeah good read, cleared a few things up, made a few things more confusing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcm1610 Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 Can't wait for the DVD.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sewbr0 Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 i was looking forward to this for so long. saw it tonight in imax. and i was let down. a lot. i was bored throughout the majority of it, and felt it wasnt great acting. in my mind it was shutter island meets the matrix. i mean if shutter island and the matrix fucked, and had a perfect baby , you know the aryan type, it would be this movie. and to top it off, i saw my ex girlfriend with my former bestfriend/ former roommate as of 2 weeks ago, so that just made me hate it more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xfedaykinx Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 what about the insinuation that the top was his wife's totem first? doesn't that make you question whether any of it was real. at that point, what would dictate whether the top spins forever or tips over and falls when he uses it? i stepped out to go to the restroom quickly, but i dont remember ever seeing him spin the top and it continuing to spin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesomexloveus Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 well, it kept spinning when the old asian dude (im awful with names) in limbo spun it, so he was definitely in a dream then. but didn't he say that only the person it belonged to could know exactly how much it weighed, etc in order for it to work? and if it belonged to mal first, wouldnt she know too and thus make it ineffective for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xfedaykinx Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 yeah, true. but my thought is that since it was his wife's totem first, only she knows the actual weight and balance. for cobb, it has no firm basis in reality [he acquired it in limbo, no?]. at that point it's possible that if he's in a dream, anything is possible depending on whether he THINKS hes in a dream or not. i "think" im in a dream... let me check... therefore top spins i dont think im in a dream... let me check... therefore top falls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerdave Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 but didn't he say that only the person it belonged to could know exactly how much it weighed, etc in order for it to work? and if it belonged to mal first, wouldnt she know too and thus make it ineffective for him? she's dead, though, so it wouldn't matter. he's the only one alive that knows it's trick. yeah, true. but my thought is that since it was his wife's totem first, only she knows the actual weight and balance. for cobb, it has no firm basis in reality [he acquired it in limbo, no?]. at that point it's possible that if he's in a dream, anything is possible depending on whether he THINKS hes in a dream or not. i "think" im in a dream... let me check... therefore top spins i dont think im in a dream... let me check... therefore top falls but he didn't acquire it in limbo. he spun it while it was in the safe, thus planting the idea in her head. he had it in real life (or what supposedly is real life, depending on your thoughts). he easily could have just taken it after she died and made it his own totem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattisr1984 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 LOVED this movie. complex but open to interpretation. nolan obviously left it open for people to decide for themselves how to interpret the movie and what the actual ending is. im not sure there's even an answer for everything people are theorizing or trying to figure out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyacrash Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 finally got to see this, on imax too! loved everything about it, definitely need to see it again to catch things i may have missed. one thing though, any other Nolan fans think there were too many similarities to memento? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kingbuzzo Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 My only real complaint about the film is the lack of well fleshed out secondary characters. I never once felt anything for any character thanks to the dialogue and lack of any depth to any character except Cobb and Fischer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyregret Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Really enjoyed this movie. I also felt that he came to terms with Mal's death and woke up in reality. The fact that his kids didn't age could have been a simple oversight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesomexloveus Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 The fact that his kids didn't age could have been a simple oversight. i really, really doubt that they would have made such a huge oversight given the complexity and thought that went into the rest of the movie. it was definitely a deliberate ploy to make us further question whether that was 'real' or not, imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidamnesiac Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 They never really insinuated that Mal had been dead very long or that Cobb had been away from his children long enough that they would age much. Great movie. Perhaps Nolan's best. Can't wait for the Blu-Ray. Really interested in hearing the director commentary and seeing some "making of" stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynamitekid Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I really liked this movie but it was so intense! I was on the edge of my seat the whole time. I was kind of pissed off about the open ended ending. I needed closure dammit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Inception-Explained-Unraveling-The-Dream-Within-The-Dream-19615.htmlAccording to here, he aged because he didn't know he was in limbo, whereas Leo did know so he stayed youthful, but Leo and Mal aged the 1st time they went there because they weren't aware it was limbo. Saito aged quicker than Cobb because the few moments he was dead in one of the dream levels while Cobb was still alive were like decades in the deeper level. If Cobb and Saito had died at the same time, they would both be old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcm1610 Posted July 26, 2010 Author Share Posted July 26, 2010 That's my interpretation. I like it a lot better than the "Cobb knows it's limbo so he doesn't age" explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djones0930 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 The ending was perfect. That's what films should do -- just like music -- leave the viewer/reader/listener open for their own interpretation. I personally want to think that Cobb's totem would keep spinning because regardless if it is his dream, at least he gets to be "home" with his children and father. It's his heaven of dreams, and with his experience of the dream world, who needs to step back into 'reality' when he finally has exactly what he needs in his own life. I'm pretty sure I was literally the only one in the theatre who didn't grumble or say "what the fuck?!" at the ending. I've seen too many great films that end in absolute shit, but when a movie like this comes around and delivers everything film is about, then I'm completely content. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcm1610 Posted July 26, 2010 Author Share Posted July 26, 2010 A lot of people around me went "awwwww!" or groaned or said what the fuck but I just had to laugh because it was perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynamitekid Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Maybe the totem worked in the opposite fashion. Maybe it wouldn't stay spinning when he was dreaming but when he was awake, it would keep spinning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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