suchashorttime Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Hey - I have an ethical question regarding the packaging of records won on eBay. At what point is packing bad enough to warrant poor or neutral feeback? I rec'd a record today that was duct taped between 2 pieces of cardboard. The record was shipped outside of the sleeve, but with no plastic or bubble wrap, and the sleeve took some damage on the corners. i can see the effort was there, but i don't wanna jump the gun with bad feedback. hoping someone here could help. thanks, guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Can you post some pics of this packing job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
element101 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I receive records like this alot. Especially from overseas sellers. Thankfully never any major problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suchashorttime Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 this was the whole job. record was outside of the sleeve in that. it's a cut up flat rate box with duct tape wrapping (?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suchashorttime Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 also, too closely resembles a box of rice krispies. i'm sure it's just dust, but there is a lot of crackle and pop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Well...I've seen worse packing jobs, that's for sure. I'll assume that this was all inside an LP mailer. If so, here's what I got to say: -Not there being an bubble wrap is really not a big deal. At least to me it's not. As long as there is some sort of padding inside the mailer (two pieces of cardboard) to keep the record from bouncing around should be OK. -Poor form to have the record inside that duct tape thing without any plastic sleeve. Kinda lame. -Dinged and bent corners are going to happen regardless of how well a record gets packed in a mailer or how much padding there is inside. It's the hazard and gamble of mailing it. Unless the corners are all bent to shit then it's a different issue. -If the record was mailed in that "mailer" in your picture, then I'd be inclined to leave negative feedback. But again, I have received records in worse mailers. Also I am of the mindset that as long as the record itself is undamaged I don't get too crazy about the state of the jacket...esp if it's just minor corner dings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suchashorttime Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 no no, no lp mailer. my address is written on the duct tape on the reverse ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icecream Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I would contact the seller first to see if you can get a refund on shipping, having negative feedback sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I would contact the seller first to see if you can get a refund on shipping, having negative feedback sucks. Agreed. At least attempt that. If not, just leave neutral feedback and mention that the packing and/or mailer was not suitable and unsatisfactory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suchashorttime Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 alright, cool. thanks a lot for the help guys. i appreciate it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkie Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 unless cost more than $50... dinged corners? quit being a baby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefwahoo Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Inadequate packaging but not worth a negative. I'd message them and give them a heads up that people usually expect a little better job than that. If they appreciate the advice, and many do, I'd leave a positive. Otherwise, I'd leave a neutral for the benefit of other buyers who would avoid his auctions knowing he ships records like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suchashorttime Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 good call. i just messaged him. i figure as long as he's cool about it, i'll leave neutral if not positive feedback. i need to dust this record off. it is super noisy and kills the record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychoriley Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I wouldn't go as far as leaving negative. Neutral at most, but definately send them an email about it. (unless major damaged, then yes a refund/full or partial and definately a nuetral if refunded no problem, maybe a positive) I have gotten 2 records in the past tossed in an envelope....no padding, no bubble no nothing. Just the record actually tossed in an envelope! Considering that....yours is packed very well.....but really if no major damage was done, I'd just email, and still maybe leave a positive, just mention better packing would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I just got a neutral for a record that took four weeks to arrive. I shipped the day after payment but the snow in the northeast threw some flux into the mail. I offered a refund etc. I think it was fair of the buyer. I couldn't help it but I would have been pissed if he went with negative for something out of my control. With that package I am not a big fan of the duct tape method. He should have used a record sleeve. I'd hit him with a neutral - no doubt he will improve his technique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellybeard Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 ehh i've sent/received quiet a few records like this. i never got complaints because i use the thickest cardboard possible (most of the time, thicker than an lp mailer) and taped it pretty securely. i think i've only gotten one record (ever) with bubble wrap so that's not really a big deal. let's turn this into a complain about packaging thread: one time, some girl sold me the sold out paul baribeau grand ledge 10" for $8 shipped. i knew it was too good to be true. it showed up in only a decorated gift bubble mailer with no cardboard and was completely fucked beyond belief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac1 Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 At what point is packing bad enough to warrant poor or neutral feeback? If this was a $5 record with Free Shipping you got what you paid for. But if you bought a $50 record and paid $4 shipping. Request a partial refund for any damage to the LP and the shipping cost. If everything arrived in good condition, forget about the transaction, don't buy from that seller and don't leave any feedback. There is nothing more annoying than someone whining about the packaging of a $3 ebay item. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apirk Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I got a 7" in that exact same packaging today. Thankfully everything looks good. Since I sell a lot on ebay I tend to not leave bad feedback unless something really goes wrong and isn't corrected. 4 people gave me below a 3 out of over a hundred transactions on shipping costs and now my performance level is below standard, which is odd because their is a ceiling on shipping for anything that can go media so it isn't like I can charge $6 to mail a record Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suchashorttime Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 At what point is packing bad enough to warrant poor or neutral feeback? If this was a $5 record with Free Shipping you got what you paid for. But if you bought a $50 record and paid $4 shipping. Request a partial refund for any damage to the LP and the shipping cost. If everything arrived in good condition, forget about the transaction, don't buy from that seller and don't leave any feedback. There is nothing more annoying than someone whining about the packaging of a $3 ebay item. it was on the high side of the middle. it was like 23 with 4 shipping. the record is oop and i just took for granted that someone auction an oop record would ship it carefully. and i wasn't whining or complaining. i was seeking advice from people who are more knowledgable than i. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apirk Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Did the package come from Texas? Just wondering if it was the same guy I got mine from today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suchashorttime Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 yea dude! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apirk Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 If you bought a Bonnie Prince billy 7" you probably outbid me then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suchashorttime Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 so the guy got back to me and told me that next time i buy a used record, i need to contact the seller and request an LP mailer. lame. i used a record cleaner on the record last night and the amount of dust than came up was unbelievable. good news is, it sounds pretty awesome. thanks, everyone, for your input. i appreciate it big time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjustinxschwierx Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I'm surprised the post office even accepted a package with Duct Tape on it, they usually don't allow that to be used, let alone obviously re-purposing their own boxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suchashorttime Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 yea. i don't really get the whole thing. the dude said if i thought it warranted neutral feedback, then to give it to him... no care. haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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