oakland Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 It's just too coincidental that ONLY music I've downloaded illegally or I've received as a promo prior to release keeps disappearing from my iTunes. Even the root folders are gone. I know others of you have had this problem. What do you think? Does Apple have a black-ops program to seek and destroy illegally downloaded music? Here's the other thing: I have NEVER downloaded a record I don't already own on vinyl. Call me old fashion, but I don't think stealing music is fair to bands, especially since I'm friends with so many of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faith Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Install some sort of monitoring software ala snort to monitor all of your music files and see what's happening to them. or find a free file/partition recovery application I doubt very much that Apple is destroying your music files, though. It'd help to know what your setup is.. laptop, desktop, mac, pc, where are your music files stored, external drive or not, how old is the drive, have you run diagnostics, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchrudder Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 I've never had any of my downloaded albums deleted, ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pibbals Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Yeah dude that just doesn't happen and there's something else going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottheisel Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Could be that mountain lion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakland Posted January 30, 2011 Author Share Posted January 30, 2011 Yes, yes the lion is the bane of my existence. But Scott, didn't this happen to you, too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajackwithoneeye Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Yes, yes the lion is the bane of my existence. But Scott, didn't this happen to you, too? Whaaaa??? Haven't you read his numerous rants on here as well as the rest of the internets? Scoot has never illegally downloaded music. EVER. Scoot is the downloading music police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamlikesmusic Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 I highly doubt Apple is covertly deleting your shit. They have no way to know how you're receiving your music. Just because it isn't through iTunes doesn't mean it was obtained illicitly. I mean imagine the fallout from such actions. Nobody would use iTunes, Apple's cash cow, anymore. They'd never do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaxcowboyx Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 I don't think Apple is deleting your music, but I have noticed that if you have a lot of music loaded into your library, itunes has a shit-awful time at keeping track of it, resulting in a lot of stuff with (!) beside it. I've had this problem for awhile now too, since i upgraded to the newest itunes (10 i think?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pibbals Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 iTunes is a terrible media player and I have never fully grasped why people use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deafmx Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 ever heard of "drunk deleting"? just sayin.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamlikesmusic Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 iTunes is a terrible media player and I have never fully grasped why people use it. I understand disliking it, but you've got to either be retarded or oblivious to not see why people use it. (I wasn't originally going to call you retarded, however when I realized this was my 10,000th post, I figured I had to spice it up a bit) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allstar Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 iTunes is a terrible media player and I have never fully grasped why people use it. It's got a great tool for organizing your music folders automatically. I got into it bc of my ipod, and now even after all my ipods have stopped working, I still use iTunes as my main media player, solely because of how well it can organize my music I agree it's not the best media player, but there are valid reasons why people do use it, hence its popularity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pibbals Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Winamp can organize it in much the same fashion as can Foobar and many other media players. Organizing music automatically isn't an iTunes exclusive thing. iTunes is a terrible media player and I have never fully grasped why people use it. I understand disliking it, but you've got to either be retarded or oblivious to not see why people use it. (I wasn't originally going to call you retarded, however when I realized this was my 10,000th post, I figured I had to spice it up a bit) It's used because marketing and lack of well known competition has rendered it the most popular one. Everything it does it does poorly in comparison to other players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakland Posted January 31, 2011 Author Share Posted January 31, 2011 None of this refutes the claim that Apple is possibly stealing back my justifiably stolen music. Like I said, I don't download anything I don't already own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suchashorttime Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 there is a 90% chance all of your music files are still on your computer and are either buried in an iTunes Music file inside of an iTuned Music file (if you use the automatic filing thing), or CDDB is ALWAYS classifying single band albums as compilations. Check the Compilations folder. Check the Unknown folder. it's all there, i'm sure, you just need to hunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pibbals Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Dude it just doesn't do that and I don't know how that idea got in your head. Millions of people are using downloaded music without a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkie Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 delete itunes. download anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbypuckett Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 You probably have the option checked to let iTunes organize your music. Someone mentioned this above. iTunes will take all the files you import and it puts them in a folder and it keeps it all nice and tidy. iTunes takes a lot of heat, but it doesn't really deserve all of the trash talk. For what it is it's great, it keeps your songs in an easy to use to program. You can search, make playlists, sync your iDevices, etc... It's just a bit clunky these days. They really need to re-write the program from the ground up. iTunes has its flaws, but I still enjoy using it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidamnesiac Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 iTunes takes a lot of heat, but it doesn't really deserve all of the trash talk. For what it is it's great, it keeps your songs in an easy to use to program. You can search, make playlists, sync your iDevices, etc... It's just a bit clunky these days. They really need to re-write the program from the ground up. iTunes has its flaws, but I still enjoy using it.This. I have never understood the hate for iTunes either. I actually tried an alternative (Songbird) a year or so ago. And while it ran a bit smoother and snappier than Apple's player, Songbird just didn't do things in the same way as iTunes. And some of those things have become essential to the way I organize and experience my music library. I'm sure there are "better" options available, but iTunes works, it works pretty well, and I don't have to spend extra time getting it to sync properly with my iPod.To the original poster: clearly you have some misconceptions as to how computers work. It is quite literally impossible for a company like Apple to access your file system through iTunes and delete your files. If Apple was doing such a thing, I'm pretty sure it would be international news and we would all know about it. Even if it was possible, there's no way for anyone to sort a "pirated" music file from a legitimate one created with a CD. Both are DRM free and both look the same. So sorry. What has most likely happened is that you imported the files to iTunes, and accidentally deleted the source files or something. 99% of computer problems are user error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tre Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I've had plenty of times where I go to listen to a record, and see it only has 7 out of the 12 tracks... or songs that I KNOW I got album art for suddenly are album art-less... The world is an imperfect place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pibbals Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 It could be a problem with iTunes' indexing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
controlthebleeding Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 i don't know what it is but i've never had a problem with itunes for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faith Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Install some sort of monitoring software ala snort to monitor all of your music files and see what's happening to them. or find a free file/partition recovery applicationI doubt very much that Apple is destroying your music files, though. It'd help to know what your setup is.. laptop, desktop, mac, pc, where are your music files stored, external drive or not, how old is the drive, have you run diagnostics, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakland Posted February 3, 2011 Author Share Posted February 3, 2011 there is a 90% chance all of your music files are still on your computer and are either buried in an iTunes Music file inside of an iTuned Music file (if you use the automatic filing thing), or CDDB is ALWAYS classifying single band albums as compilations. Check the Compilations folder. Check the Unknown folder. it's all there, i'm sure, you just need to hunt. That's another thing. There's a shitload of music in the unknown file. There's no way to figure out what the tracks go to. I don't do the auto filing thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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