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that's great that she's at least someone in her field of choice! i currently work for the state (mostly for the benefits) and am working on building a photography business.

art is what i'm good at/passionate about, so i don't really have any regrets. i knew what i was getting myself into, as should everyone getting degrees in that or similar fields.

For the longest time, I considered getting a degree in fine art but I knew that my art had a lot less chance for marketability than what it is you do (which is to say, photography has a lot more appeal and opportunity to net rent money, something that traditional drawing and collage work does not) or someone else who may work in a field that can be more practically applied (I say all of this as a plus to those who've managed to make their art degrees work instead of letting them hang while making lattes). Love cooking though, so went to culinary school instead and no do personal cheffing as my main job while working on art on the side. Oddly enough my culinary career leaves me wide open to spend wayyyyy more time on art, so I'm doing what I want as well.

Some re-press DT records, some make art. Eh, it's all how folks wanna spend their time.

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I have never seen Ross come across as the Messiah of record pressing or the Santa Clause of re-issues. He's just pressing records and doing something that he loves.

It's really no different than AlexH, jailhouse, and magicbullet sitting around at their parent's house masturbating to internet porn... they're doing something that they love.

But, I mean, if they get pleasure out of spending an hour writing a novel about how ETR sucks and is destructive to the "indy" music scene, or whatever their gripes are about, that's cool. They probably work at Long John Silvers or deliver pizzas... Well, I know they don't have a college degree in English.

Learn the difference between "your" and "you're" when chewing out young businessmen like Ross. You'll appear to be educated, and someone might take your opinions seriously.

Ups to you Ross.

We don't so much concentrate on the Indianapolis scene as much as the indie scene. Learn the difference between indy and indie if you want to start a grammar war you fuck.

Anyway, that's all the time for today. I think I will jack off and take a nap before I go to the bank and deposit these three distributor checks, and send bands their royalty checks for Sept sales. Have fun at your corporate dayjob! Hope it was worth the degree!

I regret to inform you that Brent/Magic Bullet is probably busy at the moment processing orders and cashing checks, maybe he will post later on after the store he owns closes for the day.

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He might be too busy hanging out as his parents house j-ing off.

Seriously though, just think about where the money is going with a label like this.

Typical DIY money flow is a label pays a plant for pressing, then gives the bands a royalty cut, and usually gives them records. Distributors buy from the label (or in some cases paid for part of the record ahead of time), stores buy from distributor or label, and people buy from label or store, or occasionally small distros. Look at where the money is going. To the band, indie distributors, the label, the pressing plant, stores, and the label.

With his style of releases, the money is going to the major labels. The same labels that punks refused to buy from for years. Then his label, and less often indie stores and distros. It's bringing more money to filthy rich fucks running majors.

Fuck this style of label running.

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Hot topic, drive thru records, etc

This is what happens when you grow up hanging out in malls instead of vfw halls seeing worthwhile bands who don't have managers and presskits

That funny cause you hit it on the head with that comment. I spent most of my early teenage years hanging out in the mall with my friends, listening to drive thru bands. I grew up on long island in the early 2000's where most of the local bands started to blow up and become national acts, on the cover of alt press and kerrang right as i started to go to shows on a weekly basis. It went from seeing brand new at their record release show for your favorite weapon at a tower records in the mall with less than 100 people there to headlining a 3000+ person venue within 2 years. I must be a product of my surroundings because that mall/drive thru comment was dead on even though it was supposed to be a shot at me.

That being said I have been friends/merch guy with bands who never went anywhere and sat in their basement while they record their demos. Been on tour for weeks at a time sleeping on floors and in the van, driving to shows across the east coast where no one except the other bands show up and managed a band who's in the process of being signed to larger label who can open more doors for them than just me which was all my mission statement really said anyway and ive accomplished it.

Enjoy The Ride was started after a car accident on the way back from the studio with a band i was managing where the van flipped twice and I ended up with a fucked up back, broken hand and torn ligaments. We were blindsided by a drunk driver going 80mph merging onto the highway at 1am. I took my settlement from the accident and took a risk opening an indie label in 2007(the thing ive always wanted to do since I started going to shows at 14). I could have easily taken the money and blown it on bullshit but I decided to take a risk on something I always wanted to do while i had the opportunity because I knew it was now or never, before I had a family to take care of. I dont think ive ever mentioned this on the board because my personal backstory shouldn't be relevant but regardless I took all the money and put it into harvard whos slowly been building a cult following. I wanted to sign two bands at the same time but went over budget because I wanted to get a legit producer(chose brian mcternan who loved the band and gave us a sweet deal but was still a small fortune) so i took the remaining money and begged richard for 10 months to let me license and press some of dtr's back catalog which was a success and eventually turned in focusing on this while harvard grew and toured.

If the primary issue with the people on this board bitching about me is that “I claim to be diy and part of a scene” and aren’t then that all depends on your definition. I went to college away from home to I was part of various different scenes (all over the east coast) over the course of the past 8 years and busted my ass interning for free at start up labels, internet radio stations etc... I never tried to claim to be anything or anyone that im not and when the “about us” section was written that was objective of my label but as things progressed and I saw an opportunity and I will have to update the website to reflect that. If all of the label owners bashing me’s primary issue is the mission statement and “claiming to be something im not” then fine and ill change it, I was planning on changing that soon regardless. For the record though, I am still looking to sign up and coming artists and have been waiting for all the stuff with Harvard and the other label to finally be taken care of. Its been in the process for almost a year while they were writing and working out contract semantics.

As far as “how many of my releases ended up in indie record stores” and im not helping the community. I am partnered with one of the oldest and largest stores in the country so from here on out, most of them will be distributed through junket boy who handles 875+ indie record stores across the country. I also packed by hand 3000+ packages in the last year with help from friends/interns on the first two, which were only about 500 packages. The rest were literally all done by myself, Im at the post office 4 days a week filling out customs forms. Before people start with the bullshit on the first two releases where shipping costs were slightly high which was due to paying interns. As I said, I interned for free for years and know how much it sucks working for free without even having travel expenses paid for especially in a terrible economy, which is why I decided to try and pay the initial interns for their help. That ended up blowing up in my face as that was the start of people bitching so for the rest of the releases I sucked it up and did it all myself.

If you want me to "be honest about my intentions" at this point then clearly enjoy the ride right now is primarily a vinyl re-issue label for music that both I personally like and that I feel has a demand for a vinyl re-issue or repress. I am still looking to sign another band down the line but right now that isnt what im really focused on, clearly. I hope this clarifies most of the bullshit and this has actually turned into an interesting debate over the course of the thread. Looking forward to hearing responses on this

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Fun facts:

1. After the commercial failure of Falling Into Infinity, their record label gave the band free rein over their new album's direction, which led the band to finally finish the story begun with "Metropolis, Pt. 1" from Images and Words.

2. The album's recording was kept secret, to keep fans from meddling with the band's recording, and to surprise them. Fans had previously requested the band to make the sequel to the first part, but they had not yet been able (nor had they originally intended one to be made).

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Fun facts:

1. After the commercial failure of Falling Into Infinity, their record label gave the band free rein over their new album's direction, which led the band to finally finish the story begun with "Metropolis, Pt. 1" from Images and Words.

2. The album's recording was kept secret, to keep fans from meddling with the band's recording, and to surprise them. Fans had previously requested the band to make the sequel to the first part, but they had not yet been able (nor had they originally intended one to be made).

I see you are nuts like me about this band. But FII gets a bad rap and I would LOVE to see it on vinyl as well.

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Fun facts:

1. After the commercial failure of Falling Into Infinity, their record label gave the band free rein over their new album's direction, which led the band to finally finish the story begun with "Metropolis, Pt. 1" from Images and Words.

2. The album's recording was kept secret, to keep fans from meddling with the band's recording, and to surprise them. Fans had previously requested the band to make the sequel to the first part, but they had not yet been able (nor had they originally intended one to be made).

I see you are nuts like me about this band. But FII gets a bad rap and I would LOVE to see it on vinyl as well.

Agreed. I loved the album when it came out and still do. Sure it is commercial compared to the rest of their catalog, but the songs were great. Sometimes more focused, to the point songs are a good change for a progressive outfit.

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I wanted to sign two bands...
See, here is problem #1. What the fuck start up label "signs" bands? Every record I released, I said to some friends, "want to do a record?" They said, "sure," and I put out their record.
i took the remaining money and begged richard for 10 months...

Begging is for suckers.

busted my ass interning for free at start up labels, internet radio stations etc...

Interning is the way to get a real job, not the way to learn how to do a DIY label.

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All the albums I have and will press are all things that I personally want to see made

Hmm...someone showed me a facebook status on the ETR facebook page the other day where they asked what they should license next, and someone suggested Keasbey Nights. ETR guy asked what Keasbey Nights was, and someone told him it was a Catch 22 record. ETR guy said he was working with Victory so he would add it to his 'list.' I would rather chew off my left hand than send a check to Victory.

The best part is, if every label that lost money on their first release stopped trying to develop bands at that point, ETR wouldn't have anything to release because the labels you're paying to borrow their content wouldn't even exist.

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Well, not a DT fan here (that was around 10 years ago)...but all this DT bashing is ridiculous regarding the fact that most of it comes from people listening to Punk (lol!) or Hardcore (lol2!)...made my day!

There's more bashing this guy and his label than bashing of DT in here, but point taken anyhow.

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  • 1 month later...

Received my copy of this today from Vinyl Goldmine. It is stunning how good this sounds compared to the mess on the CD. Great clarity and dynamics, nice thick vinyl which is flat and quiet. The locked groove is cool as hell!

Please tell me other DT albums will get this treatment? (would kill for Awake, Falling Into Infinity, Six Degrees, Train Of Thought on vinyl)

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I wanted to come back and say how nice this release turned out. Like the label hate the label I don't care, but this is a VERY nice release. I never thought I would see this on vinyl and to have it like this is just great. A very nice release. Please release the rest of the back catalog.

Would love to hear the story of getting the OK for this release and how Portnoy felt about it.

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  • 9 months later...

+ repress of Images and Words. :)

Would be awesome!

Official announcement for images and words repress will be coming in the next few weeks...for those who care

It will be a 2xlp opposed to the original pressing which sounded terrible, it has also been remastered for vinyl this time.

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