Alice in Chains Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 OK so Im new to record collecting, and last Christmas I received a Audio Technica LP60 ( ya I know piece of shit), I never really had a problem with it, but after reading the forums, and seeing that everyone says its garbage, I decided I need to upgrade.... Anyways do you think its safe for me to keep playing my records on it until I upgrade to a $300-$400, or should I stop playing them all together? I don't really know why the LP60 is so bad, I read through countless topics, but why is it really bad (I definitely will upgrade though)? Does it scrach the records? If it does in that case I'll hold off playing until I save up. Any help appreciated, but I basically wana know if it will more or less ruin my records. If it matters Im using Lepai receiver and a pair of bookshelf speakers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of Breath Records Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diabretic Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I was oblivious to the fact that I owned such a shitty turntable (lp60) for about a year. Honestly, it doesn't sound bad to me. I plan on upgrading, but i'm not gonna stop listening to mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynflnnry Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 (i own one of these myself) for a low end table i would definitely take it over the other options (ion, etc)the problem that everybody gets up in arms about with these tables is that you can't adjust the tracking force. it works on a pretty heavy tracking force in order to minimize skips without a counterweight. a heavy tracking force is going to wear down records faster than an adjustable one that has been optimized right.you'll be fine if you listen to your records on it. obviously it should be in your future plans to upgrade at some point, but don't let someone tell you you're going to ruin your shit because you're listening to it on an lp60. there is more long-term wear on your stuff than higher end tables, but they're not going to get wrecked as soon as you spin them once on this table. Alice in Chains and aflycon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allenh Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 (i own one of these myself) for a low end table i would definitely take it over the other options (ion, etc) the problem that everybody gets up in arms about with these tables is that you can't adjust the tracking force. it works on a pretty heavy tracking force in order to minimize skips without a counterweight. a heavy tracking force is going to wear down records faster than an adjustable one that has been optimized right. you'll be fine if you listen to your records on it. obviously it should be in your future plans to upgrade at some point, but don't let someone tell you you're going to ruin your shit because you're listening to it on an lp60. there is more long-term wear on your stuff than higher end tables, but they're not going to get wrecked as soon as you spin them once on this table. Exactly Provided you are looking after your records in every other way then it takes quite a bit of abuse from the Crosleys and AT-LP60's of this world. If you are not keeping them clean so that extra tracking weight is packing the dirt into those grooves and you are playing them over and over again over an extended period then maybe but if you are asking the question it tells me you are worried enough to take care of your records. biodigitaljazz and Alice in Chains 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allenh Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 The biggest problem with Crosleys, AT-LP60's and all the other plastic rubbish is the sound quality. Those grooves contain so much more music than turntables of that quality can ever hope to extract and the music is the most important thing surely? And even if they could extract the information the on board phono stage would cut it off there anyway. In an analogue system apart from a studio reel to reel tape nothing potentially contains more musical information than a vinyl record. We all have to start somewhere and your perception of quality is based on the quality of things you have heard, no there is nothing inherently wrong with them in that they do the job that you ask them to but as a minimum, for the money you can do a lot better with something 2nd hand and for not a lot more something new. If it's all you have then no one should berate you for it and it will play your records for you but It's been said many times on these boards it doesn't take long to build up an expensive and perishable collection of records and you owe it to them and your ears to play them on something of suitable quality. rynflnnry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abovetheearth Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 my turntable cost less than 100 shipped to me. i have a great receiver and a bose system. sounds amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannibal Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 my turntable cost less than 100 shipped to me. i have a great receiver and a bose system. sounds amazing. I doubt anyone would be amazed. Edit: I wanted to make sure my statement wasn't just about me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abovetheearth Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 i was being more sarcastic than serious. im not an audiophile. but i am a professional at what sounds good to me. i have a nice receiver, and a nice speaker set. it sounds really good, and thats where it stays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allenh Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 i have a great receiver and a bose system. sounds amazing. If that's not sarcasm I would seek out an Otolaryngologist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abovetheearth Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 just to be clear, my original post was pure sarcasm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbruise Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 No sarcasm in these parts guy, prepare to be e-murdered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allenh Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 just to be clear, my original post was pure sarcasm. That's good as use of the B word can cause quite an adverse reaction trevorxramage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice in Chains Posted February 27, 2014 Author Share Posted February 27, 2014 (i own one of these myself) for a low end table i would definitely take it over the other options (ion, etc) the problem that everybody gets up in arms about with these tables is that you can't adjust the tracking force. it works on a pretty heavy tracking force in order to minimize skips without a counterweight. a heavy tracking force is going to wear down records faster than an adjustable one that has been optimized right. you'll be fine if you listen to your records on it. obviously it should be in your future plans to upgrade at some point, but don't let someone tell you you're going to ruin your shit because you're listening to it on an lp60. there is more long-term wear on your stuff than higher end tables, but they're not going to get wrecked as soon as you spin them once on this table. Exactly Provided you are looking after your records in every other way then it takes quite a bit of abuse from the Crosleys and AT-LP60's of this world. If you are not keeping them clean so that extra tracking weight is packing the dirt into those grooves and you are playing them over and over again over an extended period then maybe but if you are asking the question it tells me you are worried enough to take care of your records. OK thank you for your replies. It looks like I'll still spin them for the time being. And I do keep my records very clean, by storing them in Mo-Fi sleeves, and cleaning them off before every spin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannibal Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 i was being more sarcastic than serious. im not an audiophile. but i am a professional at what sounds good to me. i have a nice receiver, and a nice speaker set. it sounds really good, and thats where it stays. Fair enough. I don't know what to believe on this site sometimes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I like how he says his speakers and receiver are nice... but won't say what they are... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbruise Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I like how he says his speakers and receiver are nice... but won't say what they are... Goddamn you're so depressing. You have a ton of knowledge about this stuff, and you just shit on everybody with it. BigSeth, Fridge Fox and biodigitaljazz 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 How was I shitting on him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 If he was joking, he was the one shitting on people spending $100 on a turntable, and people who use Bose. So... There's that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbruise Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Come on man, you spew negativity around here a lot. There are more beginners with shit equipment than hi-fi veterans on this board. There are also other places on the internet that can accommodate to your taste in hi-fi equipment, with the discussion to go along with it. Grey, biodigitaljazz, Alice in Chains and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I guess all my useful posts are just for nothing. Bummer! 3arl, Tardcore and swemoll 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevorxramage Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Come on man, you spew negativity around here a lot. There are more beginners with shit equipment than hi-fi veterans on this board. There are also other places on the internet that can accommodate to your taste in hi-fi equipment, with the discussion to go along with it. Just because he speaks frankly about topics he knows a ton about doesn't make him negative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcguirk Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 This thread. This forum. marco_182 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 This life. Alice in Chains 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcguirk Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 This hobby! Alice in Chains 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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