somethingvinyl Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Isn't that kind of why a knowledge-based website, such as a wiki, would be good, not bad? I'm confused because this is what I was thinking the potential benefits would be.. teaching how to grade, identify pressings, etc. I'd actually written a couple articles about grading and identifying pressings. People don't care to know how to grade or identify pressings when they're only in it for the money. The best record dealers were record collectors first, not the other way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discpedia Posted June 18, 2015 Author Share Posted June 18, 2015 People don't care to know how to grade or identify pressings when they're only in it for the money. The best record dealers were record collectors first, not the other way around. That's not entirely true.. But I follow. What are you saying the problem with this idea is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discpedia Posted June 18, 2015 Author Share Posted June 18, 2015 if people are collecting sealed records, then they aren't record collectors. they are simply 12x12" art collectors. ..this seems a little self-righteous to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discpedia Posted June 18, 2015 Author Share Posted June 18, 2015 Touche. But I looked up Jacob Bannon and his stuff doesn't come up on findartinfo.com so what do they know?I think you were right about that.. Well first of all, just because a website has a few sale prices, that doesn't mean it's similar to Popsike. Records were pressed in the billions while original artwork is one of a kind.., so it's really comparing apples and oranges. That's the whole point I think I was trying to get across--that it would be a center for education and advice sharing as well as smaller details, if that's what people want to share. Discogs doesn't treat albums like collectibles, but more like mass produced merchandise (which is technically what they are). At the same time, though, it takes some of the skill out of record collecting. ...Though apparently that's not what people here are interested in. Why educate yourself when you can just look everything up in a catalog? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daegor Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Discogs doesn't treat albums like collectibles, but more like mass produced merchandise (which is technically what they are).This is exactly why we all prefer Discogs. Seriously.Everyone here hates people who treat records like a collectable. We buy vinyl because we want to play it on our turntable. That's it. We all used to buy NEW records for $12 a pop. Then the collectable vinyl market picked up and everything is two or three times the price, pressing plants are backed up with endless low quality pressings of all of those collectable records you hunt for. Limited releases get snatched up by people who will turn around and sell it on eBay for four times the price. We are utilitarian. Our skills are finding where to buy some new album for the cheapest price, or haggling a low price for a used record. Discogs and this forum cater to that utilitarian mentality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futures Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 ..this seems a little self-righteous to me & collecting a wall of sealed records isn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discpedia Posted June 18, 2015 Author Share Posted June 18, 2015 & collecting a wall of sealed records isn't? I don't think you know what self-righteous means Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discpedia Posted June 18, 2015 Author Share Posted June 18, 2015 This is exactly why we all prefer Discogs. Seriously. Everyone here hates people who treat records like a collectable. We buy vinyl because we want to play it on our turntable. That's it. We all used to buy NEW records for $12 a pop. Then the collectable vinyl market picked up and everything is two or three times the price, pressing plants are backed up with endless low quality pressings of all of those collectable records you hunt for. Limited releases get snatched up by people who will turn around and sell it on eBay for four times the price. We are utilitarian. Our skills are finding where to buy some new album for the cheapest price, or haggling a low price for a used record. Discogs and this forum cater to that utilitarian mentality. And that's perfectly rational. At the same time, people who treat them as collectibles aren't intentionally trying to make life for you difficult. They just enjoy them. Again, there are a lot of similarities and dissimilarities between what I'm seeing are two distinct types of collectors. Ironically, though, 'record collector' implies that records are collectible in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futures Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 I don't think you know what self-righteous means how are folks who get all up in arms at people who actually listen to records because "value!" and "mint!" not self-righteous? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl_ben Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 How has this thread not turned into shaq pictures or cat gifs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+hecollec+or Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danionly Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 we are not your target demographic, we will not use your site. the end. we are not your target demographic, we will not use your site. the end. we are not your target demographic, we will not use your site. the end. we are not your target demographic, we will not use your site. the end. we are not your target demographic, we will not use your site. the end. futures, Multiverse and Brock N Roll 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discpedia Posted June 18, 2015 Author Share Posted June 18, 2015 how are folks who get all up in arms at people who actually listen to records because "value!" and "mint!" not self-righteous? I don't see anyone getting up in arms except for the people here.. saying it's "not collecting" because it's not the way you do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discpedia Posted June 18, 2015 Author Share Posted June 18, 2015 Okay.. you don't have to keep posting if you don't want to. Every now and then I decide to see if someone posted anything and lo and behold.. Ironically, the more you complain, the more traffic you're driving to the thread and the site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock N Roll Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Just read this whole thread and WOW, Discpedia just doesn't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Eliminator Jr. Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I just discovered this thread and knew at page 1 that 8 pages later it would've turned into a shit fest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Hundred Fifty-Two Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Why is everything "discogs but better"? If you compare yourself to something else chances are it's a shitty version of that something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discpedia Posted June 19, 2015 Author Share Posted June 19, 2015 Why is everything "discogs but better"? If you compare yourself to something else chances are it's a shitty version of that something else. huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Hundred Fifty-Two Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 huh? This is either elite trolling or high level idiocy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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llamaface Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 This is easily the best post you've had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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