lemongoat Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Never said he was can't miss. Said he was young, high potential (not MVP potential, but could be an all star one day), and is holding his own in the majors (not excelling), at an age when many players struggle to hit .230 (they often yoyo a couple times between MLB and triple-A before figuring it out). I think this thread has too many guys who know the game to have to do this much explaining about trading a 22 year old with potential and almost no contract for a veteran who will help this year more but either leave after or cost more. It's not a complicated idea. Byrd would be a good trade candidate (he's having a great year for him) but yeah, positions don't make sense. And I already gave you the numbers that says he can't get on base. And you admit he can't play defense. Soooooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 BOSOX LOOKIN' AT HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE IN THE SHIP AGAIN! WOOOOOOO!!!! up 14-1 through 5. that post is feeling like far less of a joke all of a sudden. this team finally seems to have their shit together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 And I already gave you the numbers that says he can't get on base. And you admit he can't play defense. Soooooo And I called bullshit on your post for being very shortsighted. I'll give you he doesn't have off the wall minor league numbers, but baseball America had him as the #25 prospect coming into this year. If you think he has gone from there to a bust in half a season at age 22, you don't know how baseball works (or you think you know more than baseball america). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntryLevelDave Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Where has this Red Sox team been all year!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 jesus- just saw this stat on twitter: sox have gone from 25th in runs scored to 16th tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemongoat Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 And I called bullshit on your post for being very shortsighted. I'll give you he doesn't have off the wall minor league numbers, but baseball America had him as the #25 prospect coming into this year. If you think he has gone from there to a bust in half a season at age 22, you don't know how baseball works (or you think you know more than baseball america). When a guy doesn't hit, ever, time runs out quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 http://www.blessyouboys.com/2014/7/6/5872239/tigers-trade-rumors-nick-castellanos-drew-smyly-robbie-ray Further proof you are wrong. Ranked as tigers #1 bargaining chip and would only be moved for a "huge return." But apparently you can search baseball reference, look at a couple numbers, and determine that he can't hit and is done developing. How have you not been offered a GM position already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemongoat Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Oh no, a Tigers blog proved I was wrong. I love this "But apparently you can search baseball reference, look at a couple numbers, and determine that he can't hit and is done developing." Yet, you can search Baseball America, read a couple sentences, and determine that even though he can't hit, he has worlds of potential. How have you not been offered a GM position already? I'm being a little harsh on his offensive ability. He can probably be a league average hitter. The problem is that that production coupled with his defense and position will make him a below average player overall. kyacrash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 There is a gigantic difference between basing your opinion of a player's value on the combined, holistic opinion of a group of baseball scouts and forming your opinion on an island based on some stats. They probably aren't trading him (that's why there isn't a ton of articles out there discussing what they could get and I had to post a blog article), so letting it go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Family Friendly Rap God Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Welcome to the Yanks Chase Headley! No better way to end your first game than to drive in the winning run in extra innings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMoosen Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 so now that we are past the halfway mark who does everyone have for the playoffs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHOSTDRONES Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Welcome to the Yanks Chase Headley! No better way to end your first game than to drive in the winning run in extra innings. I know that he hasn't come close to his numbers in '12, but it seams like the Padres gave Headley away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis Posted July 23, 2014 Author Share Posted July 23, 2014 so now that we are past the halfway mark who does everyone have for the playoffs? AL West - Angels Central - Tigers East - Orioles WC - A's/Mariners - A's advance NL West - Dodgers Central - Cardinals East - Nationals WC - Braves/Brewers - Braves advance I guess I see most of the teams staying just about where they're at within their divisions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 AL West - Angels Central - Tigers East - Orioles WC - A's/Mariners - A's advance NL West - Dodgers Central - Cardinals East - Nationals WC - Braves/Brewers - Braves advance I guess I see most of the teams staying just about where they're at within their divisions except cardinals arent winning their division right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacredheart Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I know that he hasn't come close to his numbers in '12, but it seams like the Padres gave Headley away. 2012 seems to be the outlier in his career. Before that he was never highly regarded, and hasnt come close to replicating that last year or this year. Kinda like Brady Anderson's 1996 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 2012 seems to be the outlier in his career. Before that he was never highly regarded, and hasnt come close to replicating that last year or this year. Kinda like Brady Anderson's 1996 season. Look at his minor league numbers. He was a pretty highly regarded prospect. Just took a couple years to find a foothold in the majors. He can do it again. Think health is the biggest concern for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 What player has over 300 hrs without a walk off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis Posted July 23, 2014 Author Share Posted July 23, 2014 except cardinals arent winning their division right now most of the teams The Angels arent winning their division either at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 What player has over 300 hrs without a walk off? Someone on the tigers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Soria to the tigers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvham Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 most of the teams The Angels arent winning their division either at the moment. Nor are the Dodgers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Soria to the tigers Just became World Series.favorites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoshotthefrog Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 What player has over 300 hrs without a walk off? Is this player still active? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHOSTDRONES Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Just became World Series.favorites Via Vegas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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