aarondanger Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 so i was thinking...(which was probably my first mistake) since it seems like the HWM reunion was a major success for them does this mean no more Draft? i wouldn't be all that surprised everytime the draft played Houston no more then 50 kids showed. it could just be Texas but who would want to go back to that. 2cents anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Good question , i don't really like the draft much but I think chuck will want to carry on his solo stuff , he seems to of been very successful all over the world, i even saw 'feast and famine' in a record store near my crappy home town. I would like the blacktop cadence to start up again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickbuysvinyl Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 i dont see why they wouldnt do the occasional show or album. Like Wayne said, I dont see chuck giving up on the solo stuff, so whenever he does that, we would get some more draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eroc Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 i think the draft would continue..sure its not HWM but it's still pretty damn good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgoodcore Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 honestly, the draft seemed like something to occupy time. when i saw them they looked totally disinterested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slymer Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 honestly, the draft seemed like something to occupy time. when i saw them they looked totally disinterested. The two times I've seen them they were drunk having a great time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rivalcycle Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 i don't know if HWM intend to make this a "we're back for good" type thing. i was always under the assumption that the draft and chuck's solo stuff would continue and HWM were just touring because they had a compilation album coming out and wanted to do a special tour for it. i remember reading the draft had songs for the upcoming record written, so who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riddle350 Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 I kinda thought that Chuck and The Draft would be the full time thing and HWM would play shows and release stuff kinda just randomly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowEndAutomatic Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 The last time I saw the Draft in Philadelphia they played with Fifth Hour Hero and there was maybe 100 people present. When FHH finished, half the people in the room left... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Everytime I saw the draft (6 or 7 times) they looked bored. Completely pathetic and embarassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brentoage Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 i've only seen the draft once (with lifetime). one of the best nights of my life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgoodcore Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Everytime I saw the draft (6 or 7 times) they looked bored. Completely pathetic and embarassing. maybe that's how they are in CA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjustinxschwierx Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Everytime I saw the draft (6 or 7 times) they looked bored. Completely pathetic and embarassing. Chicago shows too. I'd be down for a Sheryl Cro(w) Mags tour as well as a Blacktop Cadence tour. I like Chuck Solo more than HWM so, I want to see him continue that route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skumbucket Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 i'm okay either way. i agree the draft seems like a time-filler, but it's still catchy and i think if they accept what it is they've got some potential there. but yeah, hwm proper and chuck solo is pretty fucking hard to beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottheisel Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 I think the Draft looked pretty beat on that tour with Dead To Me last October because at that point, they already knew they were doing HWM stuff and were probably getting pretty sick of playing to 100 kids when they knew they'd be playing to 1000+ in a few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rivalcycle Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 since you broke the scoop to us first scott, was there any indication that they'd be reuniting for good? meaning tours, perhaps new music in the works? it's always seemed like they just decided to do a tour as one last send off or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottheisel Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 I think the band's mindset is to sort of model the reunion after Lifetime -- do short tours here and there when it's convenient (and the money's right), and if the vibe is good, do another album. But I don't think HWM will become a full-time band again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesack18 Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 i was pumped to see the draft when they toured here. listened to their album heaps. i saw them and was so dissapointed. they were drunk and bored and just shit. it made me sad. ive barely listened to them since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machiel Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 The Draft was working on an album that should come out end of 2007. I think they will still finish that and I hope so too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flood Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 simple economics... you can tour in a van playing to 100 kids a night, which im sure is a lot less fun at their age, than it was 15 years ago. or you can play to sold out crowds everynight hocking $20 b-sides collections on 3,000 colors of vinyl.. and get PAID. i mean which would you choose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbypuckett Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 I think the Draft looked pretty beat on that tour with Dead To Me last October because at that point, they already knew they were doing HWM stuff and were probably getting pretty sick of playing to 100 kids when they knew they'd be playing to 1000+ in a few months. 100 kids in Cleveland, less than 25 in Pittsburgh. It was a brutal show, but they played well, no where near the best I've seen them though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedisappeared Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 simple economics...you can tour in a van playing to 100 kids a night, which im sure is a lot less fun at their age, than it was 15 years ago. or you can play to sold out crowds everynight hocking $20 b-sides collections on 3,000 colors of vinyl.. and get PAID. i mean which would you choose? as much as that sounds like it would be an easy thing to choose. the luster of their "return" can only last so long before it runs out of steam. they need to keep it simple. make money off of these shows only when it is right to do so. i would be perfectly ok with a combination of the draft, chuck and hwm all going at the same time. but these hwm shows are so special right now, i think one off shows is the perfect way to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 I think the Draft looked pretty beat on that tour with Dead To Me last October because at that point, they already knew they were doing HWM stuff and were probably getting pretty sick of playing to 100 kids when they knew they'd be playing to 1000+ in a few months. 100 kids in Cleveland, less than 25 in Pittsburgh. It was a brutal show, but they played well, no where near the best I've seen them though. only time the draft played pittsburgh was in may at Club Cafe, which is a 21+ venue, and they were charging $15 and the show didn't start till 10 PM. thats the only reason why so few people were there... had it been at, oh I dunno... anywhere else that was all ages or didn't charge $15 for a 21+ show, you'd have at least tripled that number. I didn't go because my flight from florida landed at 11:30 PM that night and there's no way i'd have made it. my thoughts are this... The Draft is just exactly what The Cro(w)s, Blacktop Cadence and Unitas were when HWM was releasing albums and touring a ton. Just a break from the norm. Chuck doing his solo stuff is like Rumbleseat and can happen anytime because it only depends on the schedule of MAYBE 2 people. But The Draft, just a band to fill time when they ended HWM until the inevitable "reunion" shows. Sure they said they were done, but they've been down that road before only to get back onboard and release more albums. I think the Draft will ccontinue, but on a much slower pace because as long as they do these HWM shows the demand for the Draft will fall off the charts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 simple economics...you can tour in a van playing to 100 kids a night, which im sure is a lot less fun at their age, than it was 15 years ago. or you can play to sold out crowds everynight hocking $20 b-sides collections on 3,000 colors of vinyl.. and get PAID. i mean which would you choose? as much as that sounds like it would be an easy thing to choose. the luster of their "return" can only last so long before it runs out of steam. they need to keep it simple. make money off of these shows only when it is right to do so. i would be perfectly ok with a combination of the draft, chuck and hwm all going at the same time. but these hwm shows are so special right now, i think one off shows is the perfect way to do it. I don't see them losing steam with HWM anytime soon. They've played, what, 5 different cities so far and have some shows lined up in So Cal, Az, and Germany. There are still a LOT of people all over the country and the rest of the world that would love to get a chance to see HWM. They could do probably do a nationwide tour and get the same receoption and pretty much every show. Could they do 3-4 more nationwide tours over the next 2-3 years and expect to sell out 2,000+ capacity venues every night? No. But for now they could do a full tour and do exactly that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottheisel Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 No way. If they did a full-on national tour (say, 30-40 cities), it would tank in a lot of places. The same thing happened with the Braid reunion tour a few years back -- a lot of the early shows sold out, but toward the end of the thing (it was something like 50-60 shows), they had worn out their welcome. They played one show at the Metro in Chicago the first week of the tour sold-out, then they came back to the Metro toward the end of the tour 6-8 weeks later and it was only half-full. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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