somethingvinyl Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I think you also gotta look at the style of matches that were had back in the 50s and 60s compared to the 80s and 90s. A slam would be someones finiser, the ddt hadnt been invented yet, and the headlock was 75% of a match. Not saying this accounts for a lot, but Benoit did have a brain of a 80 year old alzheimers man while Gagne probably never took a shot to his head in his life. Considering styles certainly hadn't occurred to me as I was typing my thoughts, so that's good point. Still, The 40-50 wrestlers who've died before their 40th birthday in the past ten years didn't have much in common with Benoit. Sure, Benoit did the flying headbutt and probably most of his trauma from that or chair shots. But that long list of guys who've died early all have heart-related issues or overdoses. The drugs play a significant role in their shortened lives. Not all mind you, but a considerable amount. Thankfully, it seems since WWE has been the biggest game in town for more than ten years and had all of the scrutiny placed on them after Benoit murder/suicide, they seem to have cleaned up the locker room quite a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacredheart Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Considering styles certainly hadn't occurred to me as I was typing my thoughts, so that's good point. Still, The 40-50 wrestlers who've died before their 40th birthday in the past ten years didn't have much in common with Benoit. Sure, Benoit did the flying headbutt and probably most of his trauma from that or chair shots. But that long list of guys who've died early all have heart-related issues or overdoses. The drugs play a significant role in their shortened lives. Not all mind you, but a considerable amount. Thankfully, it seems since WWE has been the biggest game in town for more than ten years and had all of the scrutiny placed on them after Benoit murder/suicide, they seem to have cleaned up the locker room quite a lot. True, I was just wondering how much others think that might play into account. For sure many were drug related or effects from doing drugs earlier. Sadly the WWE has loosened its wellness policy in the past year or so. You can now have strikes removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crime Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 It obviously has something to do with it. Or else the WWE wouldn't have outlawed headshots with chairs and I believe pile drivers as well (outside of the Taker doig his tombstone). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWindBlower Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I believe pile drivers as well (outside of the Taker doig his tombstone). They outlawed piledrivers, for sure. When Punk landed that one on Cena during a Raw a few months ago, it was a big deal backstage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyFuckingPowers Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I'm going, but I'll have my 12 year old cousin in tow, I'm pretty stoked for it though. So what?! Bring him along! Were not getting wasted or anything. I myself am straight edge. Mainly just grillin! tkey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somethingvinyl Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Remember when the spike piledriver was the absolute worst move you could do to someone? verb1999 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrisnorris Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I approve of Layla being Summer Rae's replacement. Oh baby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacredheart Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I approve of Layla being Summer Rae's replacement. Oh baby! I might finally start caring about Fandango. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWindBlower Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 The crowd was obviously very conflicted on how to react to Cesaro, since he's sided with Heyman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedeni Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 It's starting to seem like Heymans run with Axel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWindBlower Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 It's starting to seem like Heymans run with Axel. The difference is that Cesaro is better in the ring (in my opinion). I hope it doesn't turn out that way. It's just odd to see WWE pair him up with the ultimate heel, Paul Heyman, just as he's gaining some love as a face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedeni Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I agree he is better. It just has that feel to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crime Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Holy shit. Seeing that promo for Kane with the clip of him pushing Zack Ryder off the stage in his wheelchair made me burst out laughing. That was the best, when Kane was beating the crap out of Ryder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crime Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Anyone else see Ryback just laying on the ramp while Evolution walked out? Again, that made me burst out laughing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crime Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I will admit the Batista Bomb into the RKO is a pretty bad ass move (when done properly). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Not gonna lie, I got goosebumps when Evolution's music hit. And I agree, that Batista Bomb/RKO move was bad-ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyFuckingPowers Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 So many middle school memories just hit me when that music hit. Also, good luck making those Alabama folks believing in evolution..... knifeparty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock N Roll Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Anyone else see Ryback just laying on the ramp while Evolution walked out? Again, that made me burst out laughing. Yeah I saw that lol. Good olé Ryback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 The difference is that Cesaro is better in the ring (in my opinion). I hope it doesn't turn out that way. It's just odd to see WWE pair him up with the ultimate heel, Paul Heyman, just as he's gaining some love as a face. in your opinion? no. cesaro is far superior to anything axel could dream of doing. fact. this is nothing like axel's stint with heyman. the crowd is conflicted because he just spent 5 minutes dumping more dirt into taker's grave, and then introduced the guy who is heating up like no other right now. listen to the pop he got after the 3 count. people want to see this guy because he's a monster. it can only help that he has the best mouth piece of all time on his side now. just let the streak blow over, and the crowd will figure it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rtw88 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I'm catching up on Raw. RVD is looking pretty winded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Family Friendly Rap God Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Not gonna lie, I got goosebumps when Evolution's music hit. And I agree, that Batista Bomb/RKO move was bad-ass. I'm all for this reunion unless they bury the Shield. This feud should end with the Shield going over. Sidebar: where is Flair!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWindBlower Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 in your opinion? no. cesaro is far superior to anything axel could dream of doing. fact. this is nothing like axel's stint with heyman. the crowd is conflicted because he just spent 5 minutes dumping more dirt into taker's grave, and then introduced the guy who is heating up like no other right now. listen to the pop he got after the 3 count. people want to see this guy because he's a monster. it can only help that he has the best mouth piece of all time on his side now. just let the streak blow over, and the crowd will figure it out. I just put the "in my opinion" part to avoid any conflict on the issue, lol. But I agree. I REALLY like him with Heyman. It was just odd to see those two together at first. I don't have any doubt that Cesaro is going to go over big. The crowd is definitely in to Cesaro way more than they were ever in to Axel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I'm all for this reunion unless they bury the Shield. This feud should end with the Shield going over. Sidebar: where is Flair!? Yeah, isn't Flair under contract with WWE again? He doesn't have to show up every episode, but it'd be nice to see him in Evolution's corner at Extreme Rules. Have him hit Ambrose with some chops during the match or something. And, yes, if the Shield loses, WWE is incredibly stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 he must be.. wasn't too long ago he was doing pre-show panels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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