Dominic_ Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Yeah. It was the just the quickest example I could think of. You shouldn't be working 40 hours at McDonald's for your whole support. There are better jobs out there.And McDonalds always makes me feel like I am going to die after I eat there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic_ Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I'm paid slightly more than $15 an hour and I still can't live off of that and I don't even have a family. I don't live a fancy life but student loans is what kills it for me. They really need to get something done about that. College just costs so much money ! Yeah, student loans seem scary. I'm hoping to get some scholarship money to help, but I don't know if I'm good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himynameisShane Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I'm paid slightly more than $15 an hour and I still can't live off of that and I don't even have a family. I don't live a fancy life but student loans is what kills it for me. They really need to get something done about that. College just costs so much money ! I'll start paying off my loans in January. But they want me to pay close 200 a month for something like 10 years. And I don't even have that much in loans. I took the loans to support my lifestyle so its mostly my fault. But I can't imagine people with $50,000+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himynameisShane Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Yeah, student loans seem scary. I'm hoping to get some scholarship money to help, but I don't know if I'm good enough. Not sure how Arizona is/whatever college you go to. But scholarships will probably be your best bet. I doubt you are going to qualify for grants. Thats what kept my tuition so low thankfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I'm paid slightly more than $15 an hour and I still can't live off of that and I don't even have a family. I don't live a fancy life but student loans is what kills it for me. They really need to get something done about that. College just costs so much money ! I make a little over $16/hr, and am in the same boat. Once my loans are paid off, everything will be much more comfortable, but it's not going to make life luxurious or anything. I worked for $9.25/hr for years, it was impossible. I ran out of all the money I had saved living at home in a little over a year. The wage issue in this country is insane, and is obviously not working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarzioo_ Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I'll start paying off my loans in January. But they want me to pay close 200 a month for something like 10 years. And I don't even have that much in loans. I took the loans to support my lifestyle so its mostly my fault. But I can't imagine people with $50,000+ I'm paying about $500 a month just for loans and I'm told I got it easy. My roommate pays about $1300 a month. I don't even know what I would do in that situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic_ Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Not sure how Arizona is/whatever college you go to. But scholarships will probably be your best bet. I doubt you are going to qualify for grants. Thats what kept my tuition so low thankfully. Yeah, I highly doubt I'd quality for grants of any kind. I dunno, I'll address the issue when the time comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic_ Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I'm paying about $500 a month just for loans and I'm told I got it easy. My roommate pays about $1300 a month. I don't even know what I would do in that situation.I'd curl up in a ball and hope to die, but that's just my approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Raising minimum wage will only cut jobs because business owners are greedy. It would actually BOOST the economy because people would have more fucking money to put back into it. Some asshole CEO is hoarding money in offshore accounts. Some dude working a shitty job is going to SPEND the money he makes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himynameisShane Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I'm paying about $500 a month just for loans and I'm told I got it easy. My roommate pays about $1300 a month. I don't even know what I would do in that situation. Holy fuck. That is insane. How the hell do they expect people to pay that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I live in a dual income household and we're still barely able to make ends meet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic_ Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Raising minimum wage will only cut jobs because business owners are greedy. It would actually BOOST the economy because people would have more fucking money to put back into it. Some asshole CEO is hoarding money in offshore accounts. Some dude working a shitty job is going to SPEND the money he makes. Why the jobs would be cut is irrelevant. You can't get rid of assholes unfortunately, so you have to work around it. Yeah, more money would be theoretically flowing, but wouldn't the universal jump in wages lead to a universal jump in prices and pretty much even things back out? Not trying to be difficult, just trying to understand because I don't really know anyone to talk about this kind of shit to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarzioo_ Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Raising minimum wage will only cut jobs because business owners are greedy. It would actually BOOST the economy because people would have more fucking money to put back into it. Some asshole CEO is hoarding money in offshore accounts. Some dude working a shitty job is going to SPEND the money he makes. I heard Walmart has to raise their wages so they decided to just add more self serve registers and get rid of the people that worked the registers. It's absolutely ridiculous. I don't see how getting rid of cashiers is stopping Walmart from going bankrupt. Maybe they should stop opening so many fucking stores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Why the jobs would be cut is irrelevant. You can't get rid of assholes unfortunately, so you have to work around it. Yeah, more money would be theoretically flowing, but wouldn't the universal jump in wages lead to a universal jump in prices and pretty much even things back out? Not trying to be difficult, just trying to understand because I don't really know anyone to talk about this kind of shit to. No, that's a myth propagated by opposers of raising the minimum wage (rich assholes) If minimum wage kept pace with inflation (compared to the 1970s) it would be nearly $30/hr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic_ Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I live in a dual income household and we're still barely able to make ends meet. There is a problem that needs to be fixed, I just legitimately have no clue where to start because all the proposed solutions I've seen sound like they'll create even more problems than they solve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I heard Walmart has to raise their wages so they decided to just add more self serve registers and get rid of the people that worked the registers. It's absolutely ridiculous. I don't see how getting rid of cashiers is stopping Walmart from going bankrupt. Maybe they should stop opening so many fucking stores. It is not keeping them from going bankrupt. It would keep a (comparatively) miniscule amount of money away from the Walton family. I 100% believe the Waltons should be publicly executed for crimes against humanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic_ Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 No, that's a myth propagated by opposers of raising the minimum wage (rich assholes) If minimum wage kept pace with inflation (compared to the 1970s) it would be nearly $30/hr Why wouldn't it? The rich assholes" would want to keep making the same amount or more so that's what they would have to do for an increased labor cost. Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 There is a problem that needs to be fixed, I just legitimately have no clue where to start because all the proposed solutions I've seen sound like they'll create even more problems than they solve. I should also note that my partner makes more than double what I do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abovetheearth Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 if wages go up for one area, it needs to go up for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Why wouldn't it? The rich assholes" would want to keep making the same amount or more so that's what they would have to do for an increased labor cost. Right? Yes but the increase itself would cause such slight inflation that it wouldn't matter. Greed. The problem is greed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic_ Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I heard Walmart has to raise their wages so they decided to just add more self serve registers and get rid of the people that worked the registers. It's absolutely ridiculous. I don't see how getting rid of cashiers is stopping Walmart from going bankrupt. Maybe they should stop opening so many fucking stores. That's what I'm talking about. Imagine that happening on a much wider scale, especially here in the right to work (that is what it's called right?) states. Rich people want to continue living on the same margins and will do shitty things to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 if wages go up for one area, it needs to go up for everyone. THIS is what could truly create inflation problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatGreenOne77 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Can I please interrupt this discussion of Geoglobal Politics just to say this OG Kush I have is f'n amazing....carry on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic_ Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Yes but the increase itself would cause such slight inflation that it wouldn't matter. Greed. The problem is greed. The problem is greed because if rich people want to make the same amount of money and have to pay significantly larger amounts to workers, wouldn't they have to raise their prices accordingly? Which would be justified and still "work" because everyone has more to spend, and we are back at square one? I want it fixed, it just sounds like this would break it worse and further devalue the dollar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic_ Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 THIS is what could truly create inflation problems. But it would certainly happen, which is what creates the real issue. People wouldn't take nicely to being "demoted to minimum wage" by staying the same. Greed is the running theme here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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