Bladewillisisdead Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 People who currently make $15+/hr crying about it being "unfair" if minimum wage is raised are also part of the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Greed. The problem is greed. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 But it would certainly happen, which is what creates the real issue. People wouldn't take nicely to being "demoted to minimum wage" by staying the same. Greed is the running theme here. Yes and those people are bad people. Raising others up is not lowering others down. It's why anti-feminists are clueless morons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 People who currently make $15+/hr crying about it being "unfair" if minimum wage is raised are also part of the problem. Exactly. If you're an engineer making $15/hr, you should probably reevaluate the company you work for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I know it's human (or American) nature to be "Me me me me me me" but there are huge problems that need to be addressed that affect millions and millions of people in this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I currently make considerably more than my coworkers (well, about $1/hr). If the minimum wage goes up we will all be making the same. BUT I WONT CARE ABOUT THAT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NapalmBrain Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Can I please interrupt this discussion of Geoglobal Politics just to say this OG Kush I have is f'n amazing....carry on im jealous I think I'm smoking reggies until I get another job, can't justify real bud without a steady income when trim is $1 a gram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Also, who has the right to dictate that their job is anymore important than someone elses? If you go to school to be an accountant, why do you DESERVE to make more than the guy at the fast food joint? Because you went to school? If everyone went to school, there would be no fast food workers, no janitors, or any other job people think of as low. They are still important and needed jobs, so why do they not deserve to be paid a livable wage? Fuck the CEO making billions, while his employees make nothing. Our Oligarchy of a country is the problem, and will most likely never be fixed since greed will always exists, but there needs to be something to change the 1%'s wealth gap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himynameisShane Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I'm off to drop off this car. Lets hope I don't get dizzy like yesterday. be back in 2 hours or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic_ Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Yes and those people are bad people. Raising others up is not lowering others down. It's why anti-feminists are clueless morons. I didn't say it's a good thing, I just said that's how it would be. I don't think any action can be taken until all the possible problems are addressed and solved so we actually fix a major problem rather than create 3 more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Also, who has the right to dictate that their job is anymore important than someone elses? If you go to school to be an accountant, why do you DESERVE to make more than the guy at the fast food joint? Because you went to school? If everyone went to school, there would be no fast food workers, no janitors, or any other job people think of as low. They are still important and needed jobs, so why do they not deserve to be paid a livable wage? Fuck the CEO making billions, while his employees make nothing. Our Oligarchy of a country is the problem, and will most likely never be fixed since greed will always exists, but there needs to be something to change the 1%'s wealth gap. Shit, I know people with degrees who need to work fast food type unskilled jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I didn't say it's a good thing, I just said that's how it would be. I don't think any action can be taken until all the possible problems are addressed and solved so we actually fix a major problem rather than create 3 more. We kill and eat the 1% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic_ Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I currently make considerably more than my coworkers (well, about $1/hr). If the minimum wage goes up we will all be making the same. BUT I WONT CARE ABOUT THAT. It's shitty people do, I'm just saying with our entitlement issues in America it will happen and cause the inflation I was talking about. If just minimum wage went up it would create a huge problem and would be good, it's the other people who create a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic_ Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 We kill and eat the 1% Should have said a PRACTICAL solution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Shit, I know people with degrees who need to work fast food type unskilled jobs. That also exists. It just seems to be those type of people that complain when others make a fair wage. "I worked my ass off in school, and this just works at Arbys. It's not fair he will only make a few $'s less than me!". Selfish fucking assholes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic_ Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Also, who has the right to dictate that their job is anymore important than someone elses? If you go to school to be an accountant, why do you DESERVE to make more than the guy at the fast food joint? Because you went to school? If everyone went to school, there would be no fast food workers, no janitors, or any other job people think of as low. They are still important and needed jobs, so why do they not deserve to be paid a livable wage? Fuck the CEO making billions, while his employees make nothing. Our Oligarchy of a country is the problem, and will most likely never be fixed since greed will always exists, but there needs to be something to change the 1%'s wealth gap. From my point of view, it isn't that something is more important, it's that it requires either more risk or skill and sometimes both. Being an accountant requires more skill than working fast food, so less people can do it and someone who can is less common than someone who does fast food and is therefore more desirable to an employer so they pay them more to entice one of them. In the "risk" category, I'd say opening your own business. If I can make the same working fast food as opening a business, why would I risk the money and spend so much time and effort getting my business going to be successful if I won't see any economic benefit? I wouldn't say the jobs are more important, just more in demand because a smaller group can do them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abovetheearth Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Also, who has the right to dictate that their job is anymore important than someone elses? If you go to school to be an accountant, why do you DESERVE to make more than the guy at the fast food joint? Because you went to school? If everyone went to school, there would be no fast food workers, no janitors, or any other job people think of as low. They are still important and needed jobs, so why do they not deserve to be paid a livable wage? Fuck the CEO making billions, while his employees make nothing. Our Oligarchy of a country is the problem, and will most likely never be fixed since greed will always exists, but there needs to be something to change the 1%'s wealth gap. ask yourself, can someone making my burger do my taxes or budgeting for the city spending in 2016? chances are no. can my tax person make me a burger, yes. i dont care what or who gets what. i believe that people need fair wages to survive. its not 'deserving' at all in my eyes. you work hard you get rewarded. there are always jobs out there, push yourself to be better and bump someone from their spot. i worked back breaking jobs all my life until i said 'fuck no'. im done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic_ Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 That also exists. It just seems to be those type of people that complain when others make a fair wage. "I worked my ass off in school, and this just works at Arbys. It's not fair he will only make a few $'s less than me!". Selfish fucking assholes. Yup, I agree 100% and am not defending them,I'm just saying what I think would happen. If we raised minimum wage now I feel almost certain the events I outlined would happen and that would create the same problems and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatGreenOne77 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 im jealous I think I'm smoking reggies until I get another job, can't justify real bud without a steady income when trim is $1 a gram Hell, even your trim is better than half the shit floating around here so you're good to go with a price tag like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 All good points Charlie. It's such a hard topic to debate or fix. I agree something needs to be done, and everyone deserves a livable wage. I guess my use of "deserve" was not the correct verbiage I should have bee using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic_ Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 All good points Charlie. It's such a hard topic to debate or fix. I agree something needs to be done, and everyone deserves a livable wage. I guess my use of "deserve" was not the correct verbiage I should have bee using. I think something needs to be done too, I was just trying to spark a little debate here to get some exposure to other opinions and hear reasoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatGreenOne77 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Hey Thomas, thanks to you and Matt I'm now on a full scale purge/refresh of my entire digital library after getting me into the difference of FLAC. The most across the board difference so far is that all that low end I thought my receiver lacked is there suddenly... I didn't think MP3 Lossy stripped away so much bass and depth... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Yeah, it can be pretty noticeable on certain albums and with decent equipment. Some albums, usually poorly recorded/mastered ones and such, don't offer much difference between a good MP3 and lossless. If you have the space though, might as well go all lossless just for archiving purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abovetheearth Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 All good points Charlie. It's such a hard topic to debate or fix. I agree something needs to be done, and everyone deserves a livable wage. I guess my use of "deserve" was not the correct verbiage I should have bee using. you would think that ppl making minimum wages should get perks to offset more deductions coming out of their checks. free healthcare - this should be mandatory lower tax deductions allowance for school (not saying they aren’t educated but to give them reimbursement money for passing grades) the list is endless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamaface Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Only read this last page, but this seems sorta relevant. Also, I will admit that I haven't had to have a minimum wage job in a long time so it can be hard to relate... but I am a fucking human that wants other humans to not have to work 80 hours/week just to afford to have a roof and food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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