dominic252 Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Surface noise? Crap...I haven't had time to play my copy yet. Dissapointing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subplotofcrows Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 TWY LP pt 2! The difference is that is that TWY record sounds like someone farting over a washing machine that's falling down the stairs, whereas the B&C record is just a little hissy. sabukweli 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Delonge's UFO Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 I got the yellow variant, it also had surface noise but it didn't make it unlistenable, still annoying though. I emailed No Sleep just to let them know. Got back a reply saying they are aware of the issue and are looking into it but there is nothing they can do with this pressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chutterhanban Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 how does this happen? and I mean this in the real, inquiring way--not the sarcastic, rhetorical way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwhitmuzik Posted September 12, 2013 Author Share Posted September 12, 2013 likely from trying to put 48 minutes on a single LP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 in the past I’ve gotten haze variants that come out of the sleeve feeling like sand is on the record. this one wasn’t like that at all, but wondering if it has something to do with the haze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castaway Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 likely from trying to put 48 minutes on a single LP. That's what I was thinking but I don't know anything about whether that would have an impact on the quality of the pressing. I don't see why it wouldn't though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradedOnACurve Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 in the past I’ve gotten haze variants that come out of the sleeve feeling like sand is on the record. this one wasn’t like that at all, but wondering if it has something to do with the haze. The haze with sand all over it usually comes records from Pirates Press (pressed at GZ in the Czech Republic.) This haze was pressed by a US plant (Rainbo in California maybe?) so there no dust in the jacket from that process. Those records have different method of production. If they tried to squeeze this all on one LP they should have used Pirates Press.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chutterhanban Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 likely from trying to put 48 minutes on a single LP. what about putting that long of a record on a single makes it that way, though? I mean, groove widths don't vary, do they? veggiecorecords 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veggiecorecords Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 what about putting that long of a record on a single makes it that way, though? I mean, groove widths don't vary, do they? It causes the grooves to be closer together and therefore a decrease in sound quality.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seamoney Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 It causes the grooves to be closer together and therefore a decrease in sound quality.. The thing is, the "sound quality" hasn't decreased. Aside from the vinyl sounding dirty, everything else sounds great. No distortion or anything on the inner tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickxmurphy Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 I'm spinning my haze for the first time right now. Incredible record, definitely glad I didn't listen to the leak. The packaging is amazing, even the inner pocket of the jacket is coloured, which I've never seen before. As for the surface noise issue, from reading the comments I was expecting it to be worse, but mine's only scratchy during the quieter riffs. Overall, I'm super stoked to finally own this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agua Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 got my hassle records copy in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seamoney Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Someone listen to their Hassle copy! It was pressed overseas (I would assume) so it might not have this problem. Tom Delonge's UFO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subplotofcrows Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 It'd be cool if they repressed it as a 2xLP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Delonge's UFO Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Someone listen to their Hassle copy! It was pressed overseas (I would assume) so it might not have this problem. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanellos Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Really hope they get those banners in soon, I want my copy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derkwithano Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 The thing is, the "sound quality" hasn't decreased. Aside from the vinyl sounding dirty, everything else sounds great. No distortion or anything on the inner tracks. ? the quality has definitely decreased haha. If it sounds "dirty" the sound quality is decreased. I don't get your thinking on this one. veggiecorecords 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas4 Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Got my red and yellow copy in just now. Sounds so much better on the turntable, the crackling is pretty bad though guys. Defintiely noticeable. Hope this comes out as a 2xlp repress because this record is amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seamoney Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 ? the quality has definitely decreased haha. If it sounds "dirty" the sound quality is decreased. I don't get your thinking on this one.Sound quality is in quotations because he's referring to the quality of the master/cut. Obviously if you spill a can of beer on a record the sound quality is affected but that has nothing to do with the album length being too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veggiecorecords Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 the below is from Pirates Press it might shed some light on to what MAY be going on with this record, who knows: One of the most important things that some people don’t understand is that the loudness of the vinyl is not dictated by the loudness of your master. Having a louder master doesn’t necessarily mean that your record will be louder, in some cases a loud master will mean that there is a greater chance that your record will be distorted or that the studio technicians will have to adjust the sound to be able to cut the record. The loudness of the record is decided upon by taking into consideration a few important factors: The length of each side – if the tracks or the whole side is longer than we recommend then the only way to fit all of that music on one side is to DECREASE the volume. The shorter the side the more chance there is that we can increase the volume. However, a short side again does not necessarily mean that the record will be loud, there are more factors that effect the loudness The style of music – if the music involves strong bass, high vocals, loud guitars or drums, then again they engineer has to somehow compromise. In most cases he will lower the volume of the record to accommodate the loud or strong sounds, or he may have to filter away some of the sounds so that the excess signals do now ruin the cut. If there are a lot of generated effects as well this could also effect how they can cut the record (ie effect pedals, sound effect generators, unnatural sounds, pure electronic sounds). The format of the record – the smaller the record the less amount of music you can fit on it. I know that sounds very logical, but it has to be taken into consideration if you intend to have a loud record or good definition of the music. If you are worried that the tracks will be too quiet then maybe think about using a larger format. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradedOnACurve Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 This wasn't pressed via Pirates Press. All records handled via Pirates Press say so where you'd find in the matrix number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seamoney Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 That quote being from Pirates Press doesnt matter since it's just general LP mastering information. Also, I thought the volume and master of the record were perfectly fine. It didn't sound like it was cut too quiet or anything. In fact, I thought the master sounded pretty good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WubbyWubby Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 That quote being from Pirates Press doesnt matter since it's just general LP mastering information. Also, I thought the volume and master of the record were perfectly fine. It didn't sound like it was cut too quiet or anything. In fact, I thought the master sounded really, really good. Im not sure of the material or anything used during pressing but could the surface noise be from the type of vinyl used or the colors added? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seamoney Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Im not sure of the material or anything used during pressing but could the surface noise be from the type of vinyl used or the colors added? I don't know much about this but that's been what I've been thinking. Kinda like how using certain white vinyl can cause more surface noise than other white vinyl, maybe something similar has caused this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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