In turn destroying Rivers because he put so much of himself into that album. I'm glad he was able to bounce back from it though.
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As far as sales and reviews:
Came out in 1996, and by 2001 it had hit gold in the US. By 2007 it went to 820,000.
[Rolling Stone]
When it came out Rolling Stone gave it a 3/5.
The writer called the songwriting "juvenile" and described the song "Tired of Sex" as "aimless".
Rolling Stone readers voted the album the third worst of 1996.
In 2004 Pinkerton was given a 5/5.
They later on went to rate it at #48/100 for Greatest Albums of The 1990s in 2004.
In 2002, Rolling Stone readers voted Pinkerton the 16th greatest album of all time.
[Pitchfork]
Pitchfork initially gave it a 7.5/10 when it came out.
The writer said "Pinkerton might actually be a bit much for fans who were wooed with the clean production and immediately accessible sound of these guys' debut, but if given a chance, it might surprise even some anti-Weezer folk."
Years later they went on to give it a 10/10.
And to name it 53rd best album of the 1990s in 2003.
[Rivers]
Although he was initially quite proud of the record, the perceived failure of Pinkerton caused Cuomo to distance himself from it for quite some time. This has become an integral part of its legacy. Recently his views have changed and he has expressed a growing appreciation for the album.
1997: "This has been a tough year. It's not just that the world has said Pinkerton isn't worth a shit, but that the Blue album wasn't either. It was a fluke. It was the "Buddy Holly" video. I'm a shitty songwriter." [RC]
2001: "It's a hideous record... It was such a hugely painful mistake that happened in front of hundreds of thousands of people and continues to happen on a grander and grander scale and just won't go away. It's like getting really drunk at a party and spilling your guts in front of everyone and feeling incredibly great and cathartic about it, and then waking up the next morning and realizing what a complete fool you made of yourself." [EW]
2001: "The most painful thing in my life these days is the cult around Pinkerton. It's just a sick album, sick in a diseased sort of way. It's such a source of anxiety because all the fans we have right now have stuck around because of that album. But, honestly, I never want to play those songs again; I never want to hear them again." [Rolling Stone]
2005: "Then I went back to Boston and wrote Pinkerton, which didn’t have as broad an appeal. It has the sound of someone who’s not really in touch with other people, and I don’t know if that’s good. It also sounds very much like a winter album, which I don’t know if I would make in L.A. So I like L.A." [LA Weekly]
2008: "Pinkerton's great. It's super-deep, brave, and authentic. Listening to it, I can tell that I was really going for it when I wrote and recorded a lot of those songs." [Pitchfork]
2010: "Right around 2001, when we put out the Green Album, I said a lot of negative, inflammatory things about Pinkerton and about a lot of things. I said a lot of crazy stuff. And those quotes have lived on for the last nine years. And people get confused and they think I still feel that way even though it was something I said in an off-handed way nine years ago. But ever since I've been trying to make it clear that, of course, I think it's a brilliant album. I love it. I love the songs and I love playing those songs and I hope the positive message gets through." [Exclaim]
2015: "The experience of learning those songs again, singing them every night, working on them with the guys, and then being in a relatively small venue with 1,000 of the most hardcore Weezer fans and hearing them sing every syllable, seeing them air drum all the fills—it was such an amazing experience and so different from what we'd been doing the years before that ... So it was a great feeling of validation from the fans, for this album that was so personal to me and had been such a source of pain for years." [RC]
So yes, I posted those RSD lists.
The one's that the people from RSD where not so happy about. And the one's you so respectfully deleted because they asked.
Now, without a single warning, message,... my account has been blocked. Really respectful!
After contacting you (the admins, a moderator, twitter,...) I still have not heard anything back. Once again... really respectful!
It would be nice if someone could unblock me so I can use my old account again.
And since the RSD list has officially been announced I can't leak anything else.;-)
That is the most Trump quote ever. He is the best.
"Okay look. You want to talk about a thing? I'll tell you about a thing. These other politicians won't tell you about a thing, they have special interest and big donors who won't let them talk about a thing. But this thing, I'll tell you, I've seen this thing, I've been around this thing and I know about this thing. And as President I am going to make this thing great again. We need to make this thing great again and we are going to make great things for everybody in this country!"
