nickmango Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Does anyone besides me ask the seller the history of how they obtained a test press before bidding on it? I don't know. The way shit is these days with dups, I'm real nervous about someone snaking me. I mean it's not really a sure thing, getting the history, but I think it helps a little to decide on what your max is. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactusbot Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 If they are selling a fake they are obviously also going to lie about where they got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylovesdrunks Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 someone want to explain how people are making bootleg "test presses" and what they look like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 The few test presses I have gotten off eBay have been from the labels themselves and even band members. I don't think I have ever bought one off another collector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmoney Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 That's why numbered test press covers are the best - all my Votolato tests I bought from Dan at Second Nature knowing they were the real deal. You also get the sense of more directly helping fund more releases from your (favorite) artist/band (which might be false but at least it feels that way). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgoodcore Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 I think people over-value test presses on eBay. I'm with Juan, Get it from the label directly or from someone reputable or don't get them. They're just too expensive for any doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aarondanger Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 All test press are the same. Black records white labels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hickey Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 All test press are the same. Black records white labels Not true. I have some Screeching Weasel tests with Erika Records labels that are yellow. And I think some tests are on colored vinyl (Unfun, for example) Also, I don't ask where they seller got it. If you do a little research or have general knowledge of test pressings you should be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjustinxschwierx Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 my Shot Baker / Vacation Bible School test pressings were on purple vinyl. my friend Scott has the Op Ivy 'Energy' Test Pressing on clear green vinyl. usually they're on black vinyl, or sometimes white, as both of those, I'm told, are virgin vinyl and are supposed to sound better.(not trying to stoke the "white vinyl sounds bad discussion/argument/whatever", just what I've been told) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aarondanger Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 never mind i dont know what im talkign about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danthemjfan23 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 the original alkaline trio - maybe i'll catch fire test presses (of which there were 4) had the same orange labels as the actual records that were released to the public. i cannot believe people haven't tried selling their black vinyl/orange label copy off as a test press and make serious bank on a lie. that's why i'll never bid on one of those on eBay unless i know the person selling it is legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hickey Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 the original alkaline trio - maybe i'll catch fire test presses (of which there were 4) had the same orange labels as the actual records that were released to the public. i cannot believe people haven't tried selling their black vinyl/orange label copy off as a test press and make serious bank on a lie.that's why i'll never bid on one of those on eBay unless i know the person selling it is legit. That could by why Mike Park includes a certificate of authenticity with every test press from Asian Man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinch Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 the original alkaline trio - maybe i'll catch fire test presses (of which there were 4) had the same orange labels as the actual records that were released to the public. i cannot believe people haven't tried selling their black vinyl/orange label copy off as a test press and make serious bank on a lie.that's why i'll never bid on one of those on eBay unless i know the person selling it is legit. So is there actually any difference or are they exactly the same as the regular press? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danthemjfan23 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 "That could by why Mike Park includes a certificate of authenticity with every test press from Asian Man. " yeah, and those would be SOOOO hard to forge if somebody really wanted to. "So is there actually any difference or are they exactly the same as the regular press? " not that i'm aware of, but i don't own one. maybe there's something special in the matrix etchings? i'm not sure, but i don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flood Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 i've gotten most of my tests from the labels, or from the labels selling them on ebay... and the ones i haven't were cheap enough, and of things most people wouldn't care about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclz Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 my Shot Baker / Vacation Bible School test pressings were on purple vinyl.my friend Scott has the Op Ivy 'Energy' Test Pressing on clear green vinyl. usually they're on black vinyl, or sometimes white, as both of those, I'm told, are virgin vinyl and are supposed to sound better.(not trying to stoke the "white vinyl sounds bad discussion/argument/whatever", just what I've been told) yeah there was a number of lookout tests on colored vinyl. there is also a rancid 7" test on clear blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickmango Posted January 15, 2009 Author Share Posted January 15, 2009 Yeah I try to pull any information I can get out of them. Unless I get concrete evidence, like they are the label or the band, it would have to be a fairly cheap risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flood Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 you're usually safe. 1) there is a seriously limited # of places able to press records in the world 2) to make bootleg test presses it would run you a couple hundred dollars to make the plates and get them pressed... and most places mark the matrixes with some sort of traceable information.. 3) if you were going to bother bootlegging something, it would probably not be something small to be worth it... and since the vinyl collecting community is relatively small and organized.. it would be sniffed out pretty quickly.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hickey Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 you're usually safe.1) there is a seriously limited # of places able to press records in the world 2) to make bootleg test presses it would run you a couple hundred dollars to make the plates and get them pressed... and most places mark the matrixes with some sort of traceable information.. 3) if you were going to bother bootlegging something, it would probably not be something small to be worth it... and since the vinyl collecting community is relatively small and organized.. it would be sniffed out pretty quickly.. Damn you and your logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flood Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 someones gotta be the voice of reason in this nuthouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tre Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 That's why numbered test press covers are the best - all my Votolato tests I bought from Dan at Second Nature knowing they were the real deal. You also get the sense of more directly helping fund more releases from your (favorite) artist/band (which might be false but at least it feels that way). As a dude who runs a label, and has a constantly growing list of dudes emailing me to buy test presses, I thank you for your understanding of why things like this happen. Everything helps, and trust me, it's appreciated, and doesn't go towards buying gold plated toilets or anything stupid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 That's why numbered test press covers are the best - all my Votolato tests I bought from Dan at Second Nature knowing they were the real deal. You also get the sense of more directly helping fund more releases from your (favorite) artist/band (which might be false but at least it feels that way). As a dude who runs a label, and has a constantly growing list of dudes emailing me to buy test presses, I thank you for your understanding of why things like this happen. Everything helps, and trust me, it's appreciated, and doesn't go towards buying gold plated toilets or anything stupid! a gold plated cushy toilet seat would be nice. did you ever get a lewd acts 7" test or would that be something youd be into? TOP SECRET Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatails Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 theres a seller store on eBay called "Matt's Vinyl" that always sells tons of test presses from various labels in various genres, but the writing on the center label for almost all of the presses seems like its done in the same handwriting. anyone ever buy from this person? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danthemjfan23 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 i think Frank just bought the Alkaline Trio - Goddamnit Redux test press from him. his eBay name is like mattsauctions77 right? or something like that? when frank gets his record, you can ask him if it's legit or not. i think he knows the difference between a real and a fake Asian Man test... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 nah, mattsauctions77 is another guy. The guy with all the TPs has the username mattsvinyl... I also did some research on the GD test mattsauctions77 was selling. It was copy #10 and he won that a couple of weeks ago for $108 on ebay when wardogs was selling all the tests for Asian Man. So it´s legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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