trainreck Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 this seems really stupid but hopefully this would encourage some people to buy physical releases instead of spending the same or more for a download. this guarantee's that i will continue not using itunes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante3000 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 I have a total of 50 songs on my iPod that I've bought from itunes. Of those 49 were bought with gift cards people gave me because they heard I liked music and 1 is the "Numi Numi" song, that I bought because my wife loves it. I do not see my use increasing anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcm1610 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 I used to have a whole bunch of stuff I got from Pepsi for free, but I don't have them anymore for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamlikesmusic Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Seriously, why so defensive of iTunes? I don't know why anyone would buy a full length album on iTunes, especially when it's being sold right next to the physical product. Even if it does have bonus songs (usually live or demos or stuff that shows up later somewhere else), videos (that are on youtube) or pictures (what? who cares?). Also, they do cost more. While I've seen the cards at Target and Best Buy, I've never seen one cost more than the CD. (Also, it seems more often than not, the cards are for some off-brand download service) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattisr1984 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 i have purchased exactly 0 songs on itunes,etc. and intend to keep it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilstrombone Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 I have never bought anything on Itunes. all the songs I have have either been from cds I bought or ones I got for free from the library or if an LP has a free download. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest drahtuos Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 digital music is free, cd's cost money, records cost money, digital music is free all over the internet. thats the way it is, suck it major labels. if i want to hear an album before i buy it i'm entitled to download that shit for free, and if i want an album on my ipod that i bought on record or cd then i'm entitled to download or rip it, and if i download an album for free and its not that great than i don't have to pay for it i can delete the files or keep it, the internet and myself grants me that right, it's how it's meant to be. fuck paying for music downloads. the internet guarantees free music, information and porn for the masses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexH. Posted April 8, 2009 Author Share Posted April 8, 2009 ^^I'm all for stealing music, but "fuck you, I'm entitled to take everything you make for a living, for free" is not a constructive approach. Just because the internet makes it easy doesn't make it a right. I do it, but I'm well aware of its ramifications and make an effort to support artists and labels who are doing things I like. Porn is another subject. Fuck paying for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest drahtuos Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 i'm not saying don't support the artists and don't buy their records. if you like music and you care about the artists and bands that make music you enjoy then you should buy their albums on a physical medium and go to their concerts and spread the word so that other people can know about them also. charging for digital music files is ripping off those who don't know any better. i'm saying don't fall for that bullshit, buy records and cds instead. edit: i'm entitled to everything i mentioned in that last post because i fully support music because i do pay for my music and will continue to do so. people who only steal music and never buy albums who only have an mp3 player and a bunch of files i think that is wrong, that's not what i'm about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smailtronic Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 i have purchased exactly 0 songs on itunes,etc. and intend to keep it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forgeagain Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I'm personally entitled to all the free downloads I want because I've already thrown enough money away on the music industry by putting out records. Haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headtowall Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 i'm not saying don't support the artists and don't buy their records. if you like music and you care about the artists and bands that make music you enjoy then you should buy their albums on a physical medium and go to their concerts and spread the word so that other people can know about them also. charging for digital music files is ripping off those who don't know any better. i'm saying don't fall for that bullshit, buy records and cds instead.edit: i'm entitled to everything i mentioned in that last post because i fully support music because i do pay for my music and will continue to do so. people who only steal music and never buy albums who only have an mp3 player and a bunch of files i think that is wrong, that's not what i'm about. i would love to know where you get this sense of entitlement? you really sound like a douche bag. i don't think you would be pumped if the bands you feel so entitled to rip off came and took money out of your pay check every week? if you want to preview a band, go listen on myspace, at least they can get paid for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbypuckett Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 digital music is free, cd's cost money, records cost money, digital music is free all over the internet. thats the way it is, suck it major labels. if i want to hear an album before i buy it i'm entitled to download that shit for free, and if i want an album on my ipod that i bought on record or cd then i'm entitled to download or rip it, and if i download an album for free and its not that great than i don't have to pay for it i can delete the files or keep it, the internet and myself grants me that right, it's how it's meant to be. fuck paying for music downloads. the internet guarantees free music, information and porn for the masses. You have officially made the worst case for pirating music in the history of the Internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexH. Posted April 9, 2009 Author Share Posted April 9, 2009 i'm not saying don't support the artists and don't buy their records. if you like music and you care about the artists and bands that make music you enjoy then you should buy their albums on a physical medium and go to their concerts and spread the word so that other people can know about them also. charging for digital music files is ripping off those who don't know any better. i'm saying don't fall for that bullshit, buy records and cds instead.edit: i'm entitled to everything i mentioned in that last post because i fully support music because i do pay for my music and will continue to do so. people who only steal music and never buy albums who only have an mp3 player and a bunch of files i think that is wrong, that's not what i'm about. i would love to know where you get this sense of entitlement? you really sound like a douche bag. i don't think you would be pumped if the bands you feel so entitled to rip off came and took money out of your pay check every week? if you want to preview a band, go listen on myspace, at least they can get paid for that. Myspace blows. I'd love to hear 3 songs streaming at 64 kbps while undergoing an epileptic seizure from the wall of animated ads, not to mention some major labels (Universal) limiting their artists to 90 second song samples. There are a lot of ways to legally preview music, but Myspace is one of the worst. Lala, last.fm, and even Purevolume are far superior options, and bands can get paid for all of those too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tattoosdonthurt Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 If you know the song, then good. If not, read the lyrics or listen to the song. Fat Mike is a fucking genius: NOFX-Dinosaurs Will Die (from 2000) (This is not a test of the Emergency Broadcast System. This is the real thing) Kick back watch it crumble See the drowning, watch the fall I feel just terrible about it That's sarcasm, let it burn I'm gonna make a toast when it falls apart I'm gonna raise my glass above my heart Then someone shouts "That's what they get!" For all the years of hit and run For all the piss broke bands on VH1 Where did all, their money go? Don't we all know Parasitic music industry As it destroys itself We'll show them how it's supposed to be Music written from devotion Not ambition, not for fame Zero people are exploited There are no tricks, up our sleeve Gonna fight against the mass appeal We're gonna kill the 7 record deal Make records that have more than one good song The dinosaurs will slowly die And I do believe no one will cry I'm just fucking glad I'm gonna be There to watch the fall Prehistoric music industry Three feet in la brea tar Extinction never felt so good If you think anyone would feel badly You are sadly, mistaken The time has come for evolution Fuck collusion, kill the five(only four, now) Whatever happened to the handshake? Whatever happened to deals no-one would break? What happened to integrity? It's still there it always was For playing music just because A million reasons why Dinosaurs will die Dinosaurs will die Dinosaurs will die Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihprstl Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 digital music is free, cd's cost money, records cost money, digital music is free all over the internet. thats the way it is, suck it major labels. if i want to hear an album before i buy it i'm entitled to download that shit for free, and if i want an album on my ipod that i bought on record or cd then i'm entitled to download or rip it, and if i download an album for free and its not that great than i don't have to pay for it i can delete the files or keep it, the internet and myself grants me that right, it's how it's meant to be. fuck paying for music downloads. the internet guarantees free music, information and porn for the masses. You have officially made the worst case for pirating music in the history of the Internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmonaut Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 digital music is free, cd's cost money, records cost money, digital music is free all over the internet. thats the way it is, suck it major labels. if i want to hear an album before i buy it i'm entitled to download that shit for free, and if i want an album on my ipod that i bought on record or cd then i'm entitled to download or rip it, and if i download an album for free and its not that great than i don't have to pay for it i can delete the files or keep it, the internet and myself grants me that right, it's how it's meant to be. fuck paying for music downloads. the internet guarantees free music, information and porn for the masses. You have officially made the worst case for pirating music in the history of the Internet. Or, conversely, the best. What would be a good case for pirating music? The justification and the sense of entitlement in that post are way off. But what's written above is the mindset that makes pirating so prevalent. The fact is, people have a choice between paying $1.29 for a song on iTunes (with, as of a while back, DRM) and getting that same song, in the same crappy ultracompressed quality and DRM-free. That's what the major labels are up against. The labels and the RIAA have tried to make it a legal issue, then a moral issue. It might be both, but that's not going to stop people from doing it. Not saying I agree with pirating music (I don't even own an iPod), but the fact remains that it's easy and the big labels have fucked up by not trying to entice people to buy their music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbypuckett Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 You have officially made the worst case for pirating music in the history of the Internet. Or, conversely, the best. What would be a good case for pirating music? The justification and the sense of entitlement in that post are way off. But what's written above is the mindset that makes pirating so prevalent. The fact is, people have a choice between paying $1.29 for a song on iTunes (with, as of a while back, DRM) and getting that same song, in the same crappy ultracompressed quality and DRM-free. That's what the major labels are up against. The labels and the RIAA have tried to make it a legal issue, then a moral issue. It might be both, but that's not going to stop people from doing it. Not saying I agree with pirating music (I don't even own an iPod), but the fact remains that it's easy and the big labels have fucked up by not trying to entice people to buy their music. You have officially made one of the best cases for pirating music in the history of the Internet. Your point on the labels making the mistake is 100% true. They've made some errors and make it difficult for consumers to purchase music and piracy remains an attractive option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest drahtuos Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 fuck, people if you consistently support the music industry and buy records, then why not download it for free also, you deserve it and are entitled to it, did nobody read my second post? i'm not saying don't support the artists and don't buy their records. if you like music and you care about the artists and bands that make music you enjoy then you should buy their albums on a physical medium and go to their concerts and spread the word so that other people can know about them also. charging for digital music files is ripping off those who don't know any better. i'm saying don't fall for that bullshit, buy records and cds instead.edit: i'm entitled to everything i mentioned in that last post because i fully support music because i do pay for my music and will continue to do so. people who only steal music and never buy albums who only have an mp3 player and a bunch of files i think that is wrong, that's not what i'm about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbypuckett Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 fuck, people if you consistently support the music industry and buy records, then why not download it for free also, you deserve it and are entitled to it, did nobody read my second post?i'm not saying don't support the artists and don't buy their records. if you like music and you care about the artists and bands that make music you enjoy then you should buy their albums on a physical medium and go to their concerts and spread the word so that other people can know about them also. charging for digital music files is ripping off those who don't know any better. i'm saying don't fall for that bullshit, buy records and cds instead.edit: i'm entitled to everything i mentioned in that last post because i fully support music because i do pay for my music and will continue to do so. people who only steal music and never buy albums who only have an mp3 player and a bunch of files i think that is wrong, that's not what i'm about. I seriously have no idea what you're talking about. Are you saying you're entitled to rip your CDs and what not? No one said you're not allowed to -- are you also talking about downloading the stuff you have bought already? I don't have a problem w/ that. I don't rip my vinyl, I download the record and toss it on my iPod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest drahtuos Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 i'm not saying don't support the artists and don't buy their records. if you like music and you care about the artists and bands that make music you enjoy then you should buy their albums on a physical medium and go to their concerts and spread the word so that other people can know about them also. charging for digital music files is ripping off those who don't know any better. i'm saying don't fall for that bullshit, buy records and cds instead.edit: i'm entitled to everything i mentioned in that last post because i fully support music because i do pay for my music and will continue to do so. people who only steal music and never buy albums who only have an mp3 player and a bunch of files i think that is wrong, that's not what i'm about. i would love to know where you get this sense of entitlement? you really sound like a douche bag. i don't think you would be pumped if the bands you feel so entitled to rip off came and took money out of your pay check every week? if you want to preview a band, go listen on myspace, at least they can get paid for that. how am i ripping them off if i bought all their records? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcm1610 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 fuck, people if you consistently support the music industry and buy records, then why not download it for free also, you deserve it and are entitled to it, did nobody read my second post? I seriously have no idea what you're talking about. Are you saying you're entitled to rip your CDs and what not? No one said you're not allowed to -- are you also talking about downloading the stuff you have bought already? I don't have a problem w/ that. I don't rip my vinyl, I download the record and toss it on my iPod. I think what he's saying is that because he does buy things he likes, it's permissable to use downloading as a test-run of other music.I pretty much agree. Downloading has opened me to a million new bands I wouldn't have bought anything from otherwise. The problem is that your casual downloader doesn't really agree with that, they just DL to have the song or two and that's the end - no further purchases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest drahtuos Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 fuck, people if you consistently support the music industry and buy records, then why not download it for free also, you deserve it and are entitled to it, did nobody read my second post? I seriously have no idea what you're talking about. Are you saying you're entitled to rip your CDs and what not? No one said you're not allowed to -- are you also talking about downloading the stuff you have bought already? I don't have a problem w/ that. I don't rip my vinyl, I download the record and toss it on my iPod. all along i was just saying that if you support music and buy records then there is no shame in downloading music for free even if you might not own some of it on a physical format, maybe you just haven't found it yet. the only case i'm trying to make is that if you pay for your music don't get ripped off buy paying for it twice via itunes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest drahtuos Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 thanks mcm1610, you said what i was trying to say all along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjaicomo Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 BIG labels will be non existent in less than 15 years. There. They are only valuable as marketing tools. Bands can do all the distro themselves if they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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