xxmartinxx Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 i do graphic art, and i'd like to get paid $1000 if i could.. $25,000 would pay my debt, and still leave me with enough on a down payment ona hoouse... Totally... and the most fucked up thing is, that $25k is a drop in the bucket. Not to mention that it also goes towards the "Deluxe" version, which the net of that isn't even factored in here. Insane cash all the way around. I don't think anyone begrudges the people involved money from their work (especially a band like the Pixies who probably haven't seen much of it from being a band). It's the amount of money to be made from this that is offensive. Not to mention that a limited edition item like this is usually done in the spirit of doing something cool for the fans. Given the amount of these being made and the cost of each, this is just a transparent attempt to fleece a million bucks from them (us). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmartinxx Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 With numbers like 5000 of the Sigur Ros vinyl and 3000 of the Pixies box set, Artist In Residence is the Franklin Mint of vinyl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enjoyadrian Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I like this quote i read on pitchfork by Black Francis: "I was recently quoted about the state of the music business, and I was saying it should be kind of a $5 world right now. Records and tickets should be cheap, given the overpricing of the recent years and the state of the world economy. But now, this box comes out and I feel like the biggest shithead in the world." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 People want to say, "well, look at the NIN box set! That sold out!" NIN has way more fans than the Pixies. Plus that set was $200 less. Plus that set had 500 less copies. Plus I believe that set was the only way you could get the vinyl of that album. Not even close to the same situation. Yes and no. The vinyl for Ghosts I-IV was available outside of the deluxe set BUT not 180gram. The deluxe set has 180gram vinyl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circlingvultures Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Juan, i'm real in the dark about NIN. Pretty hate machine and downward spiral were all i've ever heard. Does the new stuff sound similar or have they gone a different way. also I like that there was some tension in this thread earlier and all has since been resolved and worked out and some good information and opinions have been presented. well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmartinxx Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I like this quote i read on pitchfork by Black Francis:"I was recently quoted about the state of the music business, and I was saying it should be kind of a $5 world right now. Records and tickets should be cheap, given the overpricing of the recent years and the state of the world economy. But now, this box comes out and I feel like the biggest shithead in the world." haha... I was going to say that since he's the only member that isn't in the video hyping up this monstrosity it might be implicit evidence of his disapproval. Turns out I was right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Juan, i'm real in the dark about NIN. Pretty hate machine and downward spiral were all i've ever heard. Does the new stuff sound similar or have they gone a different way. They've...or rather he...expanded their sound. The new stuff is not as abrasive as TDS but still heavy and rough. He has incorporated a lot more melody and ambience into the music. I'd say check out The Fragile. It's phenomenal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circlingvultures Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 excellent. thanks man, I'll do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlovecolouredx Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 pricy.i know how this band awesome. they are one of my favourite brit band. but almost 500 usd for wax and almost 200 usd for cd is expensive.... they were american, yu. like cheeseburgers and dying alone. i'm not sure what all you guy mena, gravitylovesdrunks. but i think i understand what you mean.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
controlthebleeding Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 i do graphic art, and i'd like to get paid $1000 if i could.. $25,000 would pay my debt, and still leave me with enough on a down payment ona hoouse... Totally... and the most fucked up thing is, that $25k is a drop in the bucket. Not to mention that it also goes towards the "Deluxe" version, which the net of that isn't even factored in here. Insane cash all the way around. I don't think anyone begrudges the people involved money from their work (especially a band like the Pixies who probably haven't seen much of it from being a band). It's the amount of money to be made from this that is offensive. Not to mention that a limited edition item like this is usually done in the spirit of doing something cool for the fans. Given the amount of these being made and the cost of each, this is just a transparent attempt to fleece a million bucks from them (us). xxmartinxx: i admit i stand corrected... please ignore my argument. i should have invested a bit of time in calculating rather than assuming costs. on a single item rather than the grand scheme of things. my bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmartinxx Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Totally... and the most fucked up thing is, that $25k is a drop in the bucket. Not to mention that it also goes towards the "Deluxe" version, which the net of that isn't even factored in here. Insane cash all the way around. I don't think anyone begrudges the people involved money from their work (especially a band like the Pixies who probably haven't seen much of it from being a band). It's the amount of money to be made from this that is offensive. Not to mention that a limited edition item like this is usually done in the spirit of doing something cool for the fans. Given the amount of these being made and the cost of each, this is just a transparent attempt to fleece a million bucks from them (us). xxmartinxx: i admit i stand corrected... please ignore my argument. i should have invested a bit of time in calculating rather than assuming costs. on a single item rather than the grand scheme of things. my bad. It's cool. Being married, I'm used to being wrong so it's a nice change of pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melikecheese Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Lots of speculation. I think you are wrong, I think they will sell fine, your also forgetting/leaving out that they need to pay people for their time, something not included in the box set, but resulted in the boxset. You don't need to sell them in a week to make profit either. For some fun, Lets look at some numbers to try to back up what we are spitting, Last.fm Pixies listeners = 992,331 NIN listeners = 1,060,504 not a big difference. Google trends http://www.google.com/trends?q=nine+inch+nails%2C+nin%2C+pixies&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 search traffic is higher for nin and nine inch nails over pixies so maybe more people are interested in buying nin stuff. Viewing sales rank at Amazon, which sadly do not offer much reporting, NIN is ahead in sales rank. blogpulse trends also show a higher rating for past 6 months of blogging on both nin and nine inch nails. http://www.blogpulse.com/trend?query1=nine+inch+nails&label1=nine+inch+nails&query2=nin&label2=nin&query3=pixies&label3=pixies&days=180&x=20&y=7 So you might be right good sir. I'm confused by this post. You start off saying I'm wrong, then by the end you seem to be conceding that I might be right. I'm confused. You really don't need to be that scientific about it. NIN has had multiple hits.....have a massive fan base. Sorry, I do need to be scientific about it. That's how my brain works. I don't just believe things because of feelings and i hate blind assumptions. This is why I have no belief in any higher power... You should not be confused. I started off thinking you were wrong but after some research find you might be correct and have a good point. I have no problems admitting my thoughts may have been wrong and correcting myself. If anything you should feel good you managed to get your message across and change my mind a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmartinxx Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 If anything you should feel good you managed to get your message across and change my mind a bit. It's definitely cool that people can have a somewhat rational discussion, people can discuss facts, and people can come to a conclusion that perhaps they didn't imagine before hand. It's also cool that people have open minds enough to allow that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhythmgtr5 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattstrike Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 "Giclee" is a fancy word for "inkjet printer print". I can do them on my Lexmark $50 from Sam's Club printer. This is hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewc Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Bumping an old thread. This still hasn't sold out, correct? 3000 copies at nearly $500 a pop. Have they ever gone or sale or been otherwise discounted? Seems like a neat boxset, but the price is unreal. Any deals out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daegor Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Not a huge Pixies fan, but anything from The Vinyl Factory is worth the price, high quality shit all around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumbycross Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 way too expensive. I'll just buy the LPs individually Pretty much been doing this anyway one word...........amazon. Or go to a record store. All of The Pixies release are at mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almightyseancore Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 way too expensive. I'll just buy the LPs individually Pretty much been doing this anyway one word...........amazon. Or go to a record store. All of The Pixies release are at mine. i bought all the 180g reissues from aural exploits when they were brand new, and i think i spent less than $50 to have all 4 shipped to me at once. i still need to pick up a copy of come on pilgrim, but i'm in no hurry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumbycross Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 ^literally just got come on pilgrim yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
april47th Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 To make a comparison the Grateful Dead are putting out Europe 72 the complete recordings which includes 72 CDs and a hardcover book for $450. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfingelectrode Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 I have the utmost respect for AinR which is the group putting this out...but yeah, I agree that $500 is too much. Really? A+R suck. They're notorious for horrible quality control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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