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We Need Transparency (an open letter to Virgil)


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hahahahaha that coming from a guy whos name has an x on either side.

i will give you the reasons why i am actually less punk than him...

1. i'm a scientist

2. i'm canadian

3. i like daft punk

thanks for being part of this though xadamhudsonx. keep being straight edge (that is what the x's are for right? not just to look cool) and i'll keep doing what i'm doing

Travis, we're totally cool. I was being sarcastic at CJ's expense... because he is a Canadian scientist (and by that I mean a dick).

Yes, the x's are for straightedge and yes I realize this isn't the B9 board.

=)

B9's only good for porn.

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I collect variants on a few bands but I dont think that means Im not "in it for the music". I would have never bought the record in the first place if it wasnt a band I liked.

I just like collecting anything I can get for some of my favorite bands which is how most people are who buy variants of the same album/band, I would assume.

I just really cant understand why anyone would care why anyone else buys records. Its a total "Im more punk than you" type of attitude.

You make too many assumptions.

I think it's a variable scale. I just can't hang with someone who is more concerned with variants than the music. There is so much music out there, I can't understand (unless you have unlimited $$$) why you would buy the same record over and over again instead of checking out something new.

An "expanded" edition or bonus tracks is a different story. Those offer something new.

Anyway, it's unlikely we will see eye to eye. You work at Hot Topic.

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You make too many assumptions.

I think it's a variable scale. I just can't hang with someone who is more concerned with variants than the music. There is so much music out there, I can't understand (unless you have unlimited $$$) why you would buy the same record over and over again instead of checking out something new.

An "expanded" edition or bonus tracks is a different story. Those offer something new.

Anyway, it's unlikely we will see eye to eye. You work at Hot Topic.

There are two sides to the coin and this debate will never end. I buy vinyl to have the music on vinyl. However, I collect records by one band and related projects. Where is the line drawn? If someone "collects" one band or label are they not in it for the music? I have thousands of records, it just happens that I want to have everything available on vinyl by a certain act, including variants, test presses, etc.

I can understand the argument when someone has 100 records and 20 of them are different colors and pressings of the same release, but to make generalizations is silly.

Also silly is taking jabs at someone because of where they work.

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You make too many assumptions.

I think it's a variable scale. I just can't hang with someone who is more concerned with variants than the music. There is so much music out there, I can't understand (unless you have unlimited $$$) why you would buy the same record over and over again instead of checking out something new.

An "expanded" edition or bonus tracks is a different story. Those offer something new.

Anyway, it's unlikely we will see eye to eye. You work at Hot Topic.

There are two sides to the coin and this debate will never end. I buy vinyl to have the music on vinyl. However, I collect records by one band and related projects. Where is the line drawn? If someone "collects" one band or label are they not in it for the music? I have thousands of records, it just happens that I want to have everything available on vinyl by a certain act, including variants, test presses, etc.

I can understand the argument when someone has 100 records and 20 of them are different colors and pressings of the same release, but to make generalizations is silly.

Also silly is taking jabs at someone because of where they work.

This.

Also, I don't think the majority of people who are still buying vinyl are doing it from a purely audio standpoint. Some records sound better than their CD/digital counterparts for sure; some don't.

I think there is a tactile aspect to vinyl records that allows a listener to feel more connected with the music, artwork, and band. It's a whole experience. I am sure you know what I mean. There is a certain ritual to getting the record off the shelf, pulling it out, putting it on the turntable, dropping the needle, etc.

I think that those of us who collect variants just see that is an extension of that connection and the ritual that we find so cathartic.

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