wayne Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 This has probably been posted a thousand times before but .... Has anybody else read this huge rant by former employee Ramsey Dean ? I found it very interesting , and made me laugh loads! If you have not read it but are interested in reading about how the record Label is apparently run i posted it on my mysace blog a while back, It is an Epic read though . http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=38324899&blogID=354450232 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Epic is an understatement. My eyes are crossing reading it...I think I will print it out and read it later as I have heard about this and been wanting to read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadetapplesauce Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 yeah i think this has been posted before. dude's a douche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magalvsr13 Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 did anyone hear about how Tony was kicked out of the Audition's show for talking shit on them and getting into an argument with one of their fathers? and the audition is on HIS label....such a fucking idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamo138 Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Its funny how bands can deal with his shit. Every time I ask i band member who is signed to victory, about the label, they usually change the subject of have no real comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flicker Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 could not care less about this label. you mean to tell me a label full of shitty bands has shitty mangement? fucking mindblow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eroc Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 i got time...so i'm gonna read it pretty interesting so far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felicia Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 ive read it before, nothing i haven't heard already. why any bands continue to sign to this label blow my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjustinxschwierx Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 PS everything is true, nothing is exaggerated. That is the scary part... Living in Chicago, I've known many, many, many past and present(soon to be past) employees, including my old roommate who was fired for lack of enthusiasm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddieruckus Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 very interesting read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainmorgan Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 wow. that was long, but engaging in a horrifying sort of way. all i have to say is: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creepz Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Tony has screwed over sooooo many bands...dudes a fucking dolt. victory record$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottheisel Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 My girlfriend is a former Victory employee, and the stories she could tell you would blow your mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skumbucket Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 i remember staying in vancouver with some friends last summer when someone posted this. i stayed up like two hours aftery they went to bed reading that shit. incomprehensible to me how someone can maintain such a high profile business for that long under those circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felicia Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 i work with a kid who used to work there and told me some really hilarious stories. mostly about tony and strippers. yikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 did anyone hear about how Tony was kicked out of the Audition's show for talking shit on them and getting into an argument with one of their fathers? and the audition is on HIS label....such a fucking idiot yeah and as the club was pushing him out the door he was yelling "I OWN THESE STREETS!" and i laugh at my couple of friends who have victory records hoodies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 did anyone hear about how Tony was kicked out of the Audition's show for talking shit on them and getting into an argument with one of their fathers? and the audition is on HIS label....such a fucking idiot yeah and as the club was pushing him out the door he was yelling "I OWN THESE STREETS!" and i laugh at my couple of friends who have victory records hoodies. it sucks because the dudes in the audition are so awesome. the new record is so good. i've read this article before, its pretty fucking crazy but totally believable. I know a few people who work(ed) for victory, they have the best things everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr to say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willbratt Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 It's hard to believe that a label that was so great in the mid 90's could sink to the level it is at now. In spite of the fact that it is relatively successful from a capitalist perspective, the label (owner) has absolutely no integrity to speak of. It blows my mind that bands still sign to Victory Records when the horror stories are a dime a dozen. I don't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steventangent Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 the label (owner) has absolutely no integrity to speak of I was going to be a smartass and post the image of that sticker, but I can't find it. Instead, I came across this. DOUCHEBAGGERY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boizee Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Wow... So glad my Victory phase is behind me. Though I'd be lying if I said I wasn't way into the label about seven years ago when Snapcase, Boy Sets Fire, Thursday were on the roster and that first Atreyu album came out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brentoage Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 the label (owner) has absolutely no integrity to speak of I was going to be a smartass and post the image of that sticker, but I can't find it. Instead, I came across this. DOUCHEBAGGERY. hahaha, they're going after Chris!!! ontario represent. what's even funnier to me about the whole victory records thing is that tony is laughing at everyone for wasting their time reading/caring about all of this, while still counting his mega $$$$$. i haven't bothered to read any of this stuff (or any of that which has come up in the past few years) about victory, and the dude seems like a mega douchebag from all that i can gather, but still.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante3000 Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 The thing that blows my mind is that blows my mind are the surprising number of not awful bands who still opt to work with/for Victory, The Tossers, Comeback Kid, Streetlight Manifest etc. It just seems like these bands would have better options, especially since Thomas Kalackanancnay (whatever, just get a name like Smith) should know better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest baseball Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 I love this story, read it a while back. So entertaining. I do always feel a little dirty buying Tossers' albums when they come out, but hey, I love the Tossers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottheisel Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 The thing that blows my mind is that blows my mind are the surprising number of not awful bands who still opt to work with/for Victory, The Tossers, Comeback Kid, Streetlight Manifest etc. It just seems like these bands would have better options, especially since Thomas Kalackanancnay (whatever, just get a name like Smith) should know better. Streetlight Manifesto had no choice -- Tomas was under contract from his Catch 22 days. Victory contracts aren't band-specific, they're individual-specific -- if your band breaks up and you form a new one, Victory gets first right of refusal on whatever new project you've come up with (Taking Back Sunday ---> Straylight Run, Grade ---> the Black Maria, etc.). And before anyone jumps on Victory's back even more about this, some form of this clause is actually pretty standard with many, many labels. Victory's is just a little more iron-clad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flood Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 labels suck. hey does someone want to post the article? myspace is blocked at work and i wanna read it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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