ajxd Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Toying with the idea of moving to bookshelves OR electrostatic speakers (Martin Logans have always been a want since 2002). I've had my Boston VR-3s since 2006. While they are an amazing, versatile speaker... I've had em since 2006. I want a different sound, so I figure either bookshelves or electrostatic will give me the biggest change in sound. I am not opposed to used, but would prefer newer models. Both analog and digital audio. Equipment being used with them: Parasound 2100 Pre Parasound 2125 Power Oppo 105 Universal (Sabre Dac) Would love to buy something American. I've been leaning towards Ascend Acoustics Sierra-1s, Triad Silver Monitors (but I have Triad Gold In-Walls so... boooooring). Figured I'd see if anyone else has something I should consider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannibal Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 If you are really after electrostats, why not get them? http://www.bestbuy.com/site/MartinLogan+-+ElectroMotion+ESL+8%22+Floor+Speaker+%28Each%29/2074269.p?id=1218308694947&skuId=2074269 The reason I suggest BB is only because of the return policy. You can take them home, demo them in your set-up, in your room, and if you like them, keep them, if you don't you can return them for a full refund. Just be sure, after the return is processed, to look the sales guy in the face, put on some shades and say, "Thanks for the free rental!" And walk out. You could alternately say, "Thanks for the test drive, chumps." That would also work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted April 23, 2013 Author Share Posted April 23, 2013 It has been a strong consideration. I think its more nostalgia factor than anything else. I went to a Tweeter in 2002 when I really started getting into audio and listened to some ML Claritys (I think), and was like "Welp, when I get rich I'll own these". Not that I'm rich now, but I have more than a $200 budget. But I didn't even think about the ease of return with BB. I do have a connection there to get MLs at a good discount. B&Ws even higher discount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannibal Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Nice. take advantage of that discount. But don't forget to back in to a parking space by the front door. Then rev your engine really loud and peel out when you leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearchuck Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I think that you should donate that money to charity, you selfish son of a bitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted April 23, 2013 Author Share Posted April 23, 2013 This year I've already donated over $1k between Leukemia and Lymphoma Society (for my late brother [NHL] and in remission father [APL]), American Diabetes Association (for my mother), and Buddy Walk (for a Dead Formater's son)! WHO'S SELFISH NOW?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youspinmeround Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I love when people just give back to the world but don't have to tell everyone about it. And you must not have realized that people on this board think 75 dollar turntables sound good and you are asking about 2k speakers. Goto an "audio forum"and stop trying to show off on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannibal Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I love when people just give back to the world but don't have to tell everyone about it. And you must not have realized that people on this board think 75 dollar turntables sound good and you are asking about 2k speakers. Goto an "audio forum"and stop trying to show off on here. Please tell me you were wearing shades when you wrote this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinch Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 If youre serious about steering away from "box" speakers, there's one company I cannot get out of my head: Magnepan. http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/0511/magnepan_mg_1_7.htm If you have the room, and if your electronics turn out to be a good match, you'll be in heaven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannibal Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I really need to hear some Maggies. I'm not in the market, but I do want to experience them. I would love to A/B them with some standard box style. I have A/Bed the ML and I liked them, but it wasn't much different to me than box speakers, if at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted April 23, 2013 Author Share Posted April 23, 2013 Goto an "audio forum"and stop trying to show off on here. You see, the main people who give advice here, I value their opinion. Slinch, Kannibal, Chuck, Martin, Shaizada, all have different opinions on the subject. I've liked what they had to say before on subjects pertaining to and not to, my interests. So. Have fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted April 23, 2013 Author Share Posted April 23, 2013 If youre serious about steering away from "box" speakers, there's one company I cannot get out of my head: Magnepan. http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/0511/magnepan_mg_1_7.htm If you have the room, and if your electronics turn out to be a good match, you'll be in heaven. I've been curious about Maggies for a bit. My father in law has some that he runs with some older Mc gear. Strictly music though and they sing. But, how do they match for 2 channel TV/movie audio? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinch Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I've always listened to them in a striclty "music" setup, so I have no idea. But I've never left the listening session anything les than impressed, and this goes for their entry level MMG range as well. The only reason I don't own one of their products already is the fact that my current listening room is waaay to small for any of their models. The fact that they cost almost twice the rrp here in EU doesn't help either. But it is a completely different experience to any conventional speaker design, and though it might not appeal to everyone it is definitely something you have to try. So if you get the chance, do go listen to a pair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearchuck Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Message board sarcasm is hard for some people. Also, I always check off the "No Thanks" box whenever I go to Petsmart and they ask me if I want to donate a dollar to shelter animals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted April 23, 2013 Author Share Posted April 23, 2013 Message board sarcasm is hard for some people. Srsly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted April 23, 2013 Author Share Posted April 23, 2013 Also, I always check off the "No Thanks" box whenever I go to Petsmart and they ask me if I want to donate a dollar to shelter animals. Also, you're a monster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearchuck Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Screw shelter pets. When was the last time they gave me anything ... other than love and undying devotion? weinerdog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circuit bored records Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 If you are really after electrostats, why not get them? http://www.bestbuy.com/site/MartinLogan+-+ElectroMotion+ESL+8%22+Floor+Speaker+%28Each%29/2074269.p?id=1218308694947&skuId=2074269 The reason I suggest BB is only because of the return policy. You can take them home, demo them in your set-up, in your room, and if you like them, keep them, if you don't you can return them for a full refund. Just be sure, after the return is processed, to look the sales guy in the face, put on some shades and say, "Thanks for the free rental!" And walk out. You could alternately say, "Thanks for the test drive, chumps." That would also work. Though I admittedly don't know as much as you guys about true audiophile set ups, I know these speakers sound fucking amazing in a 2 channel set up, whether it's for music or for tv/movies. I've sold and installed these for a couple higher-end clients. MartinLogans are my dream speakers, one day I will definitely own a nice pair. Remember bby does price matching and the margin on speakers is insane. If you're serious about buying a pair, they should hook you up with a really decent deal. I definitely would. Maybe show them this link? http://www.digitalcraze.com/Speakers-Subs/Floor-Standing-Speakers/Martin-Logan-4/Martin-Logan-Electromotion-Esl Even if they don't match that price they should be able to come close to it. Even at that price the store is still making a good amount on them (hint: it's not even close to cost). And as kannibal mentioned, you have a two week return policy so essentially you have nothing to lose if they don't fit your fancy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted April 23, 2013 Author Share Posted April 23, 2013 My hook up can get me the ESLs for under $900 for the pair... But there's a lot of risk on his side obviously. Maybe I'll just get a job at BB just long enough to purchase them, and then quit. I'm sure my interview would be really odd to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circuit bored records Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Yeah, that's more or less the price with the employee discount... And yes there's a risk on his side he just has to be smart about it, which he either knows how to do or doesn't. If he's been with the company a while he should have it under control. But if those are the speakers you wanted getting a job there wouldn't really be necessary, haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmartinxx Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 You see, the main people who give advice here, I value their opinion. Slinch, Kannibal, Chuck, Martin, Shaizada... I appreciate your subtle humor. Good luck on your quest, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannibal Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I honestly don't know what he thinks, but just because someone disagrees, doesn't mean the opinion isn't valid. There are scientific facts about audio, but human perception and understanding can't be measured purely by science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted April 24, 2013 Author Share Posted April 24, 2013 This is all true. Just because someone may say some things I don't like, doesn't mean you may not have a valid opinion on other things. You never know Martin, you may have some insight that I hadn't thought about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emo Revival Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I'm by no means an audio expert, but i have these http://www.paradigm.com/products/products-by-category/bookshelf/paradigm/monitor-series-7/atom-monitor and they sound quite amazing for bookshelf speakers. They make higher end ones as well, specifically http://www.paradigm.com/products/products-by-category/bookshelf/paradigm-reference/30th-anniversary-series/inspiration and from everything I have read they are amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnelltech Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I've really enjoyed my Monitor Audio BX series monitors and with your budget you could look at the Gold GX50 or GX100 monitors. They have a ribbon tweeter which may help offer the type of sound you're after. The Ascends you mentioned get a lot of praise and recommendations from avsforums.com message board, but I've not personally heard them. I did receive a very prompt, professional and helpful email from the owner when I had inquired about their cmt-340 series speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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