rochambo Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I can't imagine they would do a release and not have the mix/version of the album that people are used to. As much as I would love for it to supplement the ORG reissue, I don't think they would do that. Ugh.. I'm confused. This albums versions mixing/production always messes with my head. Litt, Albini... I'm hungry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noname Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I'm assuming a 2013 mix is just a savvy way of saying brickwalled mix. +1. Fuck all reissues. Brickwalling on Vinyl is like not using a condom, with your mom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidamnesiac Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Honestly the Albini mixes serve as nothing more than novelties to me. I'll be glad to finally have good digital versions of them, but the final 1993 mix of the album is the one I'm used to and listen to most. For that, my copy of the ORG master works great. I would be really shocked to see a version of the album released with the Albini mixes in album running order outside the mistake versions that already exist. My guess is that the vinyl package will contain the 2013 mix, which will be nothing more than a modern (read: brickwalled) remaster just like the anniversary vinyl package of Nevermind had, with the third LP containing the rarities and possibly the Albini mixes and demos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackholexxxx Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Can someone explain brickwalling? Alice in Chains 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burntwolf Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Can someone explain brickwalling? https://www.google.com/search?q=the+loudness+wars&oq=the+loudness+wars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burntwolf Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 has anyone compared the blue ORG to the black ORG of Nevermind and/or black to color In Utero? just curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasteland76 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 To say that NIRVANA's third and ultimately final studio album, "In Utero", was 1993's most polarizing record would be the understatement of a decade. The unadorned sonic rawness of Steve Albini's recording laid bare every primal nuance of the most confrontational yet vulnerable material Kurt Cobain,Krist Novoselic and Dave Grohl would ever record. And with its 1991 predecessor, "Nevermind", having sold some 30 million copies, singlehandedly returning honest rock 'n' roll to the top of the pop charts, "In Utero" was essentially the first record NIRVANA would make with any expectations from the public. So from the opening quasi-shamble melodics of "Serve The Servants" through the bittersweet closing strains of "All Apologies", "In Utero" was the sound of the most incredible yet conflicted rock 'n' roll band of the era at the peak of its powers coming to terms with a generational spokes-band mantle they'd never seen coming-and ultimately surmounting these struggles to make the record they needed to make. As Rolling Stone's David Fricke said in his review at the time, "'In Utero' is a lot of things-brilliant, corrosive, enraged and thoughtful, most of them all at once. But more than anything, it's a triumph of the will." Universal Music Enterprises will commemorate the 20th anniversary of the unwitting swansong of the single most influential artist of the 1990s with a multi-format release that spreads more than 70 remastered, remixed, rare, unreleased and live recordings over configurations ranging from a 3-CD/1-DVD Super Deluxe Edition to a standard digital/CD remaster of the original album. Material exclusive to the various versions of the "In Utero" 20th-anniversary reissue will include a veritable treasure trove of never-before-heard demos, B-sides, compilation tracks including: * Kurt Cobain's handwritten lyrics* A new 2013 mix of the entire album* The original never-before-heard Steve Albini mixes of "Heart-Shaped Box" and "All Apologies"* The recently unearthed NIRVANA instrumental "Forgotten Tune"* The original Dave Grohl solo demo of "Marigold" from December of 1990 — the earliest Grohl composition/recording ever released.* A four-page letter from Albini to the band outlining his plans for how the album should be recorded.* Liner notes by Bobcat Goldthwait* A remixed and newly mastered CD of the entire December 13, 1993 "Live And Loud" show at Seattle's Pier 48 featuring the final touring lineup of Cobain, Novoselic, Grohl, and Pat Smear* The complete "Live And Loud" show along with several never-before-released bonus performances, that will also be released separately as a standalone DVD and digital download on September 24. Super Deluxe: This 20th-Anniversary 3CD/1DVD Super Deluxe Edition featuring more than 70 remastered, remixed, rare and unreleased recordings, including B-sides, compilation tracks, never-before-heard demos and live material featuring the final touring lineup of Cobain, Novoselic, Grohl, and Pat Smear. This box set also includes a DVD of the complete "Live and Loud" show from Seattle's Pier 48 on December 13, 1993 plus over 35 minutes never-before-released bonus material. CD One - Original album remastered plus all B-sides & bonus tracks recorded at Pachyderm 01. Serve The Servants (Albini mix/original release) - 3:3902. Scentless Apprentice (Albini mix/original release) - 3:4703. Heart-Shaped Box (Litt mix/original release) - 4:4104. Rape Me (Albini mix/original release) - 2:5105. Frances Farmer Will Have Her Revenge On Seattle (Albini mix/original release) - 4:0906. Dumb (Albini mix/original release) - 2:3207. Very Ape (Albini mix/original release) - 1:5508. Milk It (Albini mix/original release) - 3:5409. Pennyroyal Tea (Albini mix/original release) - 3:3710. Radio Friendly Unit Shifter (Albini mix/original release) - 4:5111. Tourette's (Albini mix/original release) - 1:3512. All Apologies (Litt mix/original release) - 3:5513. Gallons Of Rubbing Alcohol Flow Through The Strip (ex-U.S. bonus track) - 7:3514. Marigold (B-side; "Heart Shaped Box) - 2:3415. Moist Vagina (B-side; "All Apologies") - 3:3316. Sappy (from "No Alternative" compilation) - 3:2817. I Hate Myself And Want To Die (from "The Beavis And Butthead Experience" compilation) - 2:5918. Pennyroyal Tea (Litt mix) - 3:3619. Heart-Shaped Box (Albini mix/unreleased) - 4:4220. All Apologies (Albini mix/unreleased) - 3:58 CD Two - 2013 album mix plus pre-album demos 01. Serve The Servants (2013 mix) - 3:3602. Scentless Apprentice (2013 mix) - 3:4903. Heart-Shaped Box (2013 mix) - 4:4104. Rape Me (2013 mix) - 2:4905. Frances Farmer Will Have Her Revenge On Seattle (2013 mix) - 4:1206. Dumb (2013 mix) - 2:3207. Very Ape (2013 mix) - 1:5708. Milk It (2013 mix) - 3:5609. Pennyroyal Tea (2013 mix) - 3:3210. Radio Friendly Unit Shifter (2013 mix) - 4:5111. Tourette's (2013 mix) - 1:3512. All Apologies (2013 mix) - 3:5513. Scentless Apprentice (Rio demo) - 3:5414. Frances Farmer Will Have Her Revenge On Seattle (Laundry Room demo) - 4:3315. Dumb (Word Of Mouth demo) - 2:3916. Very Ape (Rio demo) -- 2:2117. Pennyroyal Tea (Word Of Mouth demo) - 3:3118. Radio Friendly Unit Shifter (Word Of Mouth demo) - 2:4019. Tourettes (Word Of Mouth demo) - 2:1420. Marigold (Upland Studios demo)- 3:2521. All Apologies (Music Source demo) - 4:2522. Forgotten Tune (Rehearsal) - 2:0423. Jam (Word Of Mouth demo) - 5:44 CD Three - Live & Loud: Live At Pier 48, Seattle, Washington – December 13, 1993 01. Radio Friendly Unit Shifter02. Drain You03. Breed04. Serve The Servants05. Rape Me06. Sliver07. Pennyroyal Tea08. Scentless Apprentice09. All Apologies10. Heart-Shaped Box11. Blew12. The Man Who Sold The World13. School14. Come As You Are15. Lithium16. About a Girl17. Endless, Nameless DVD - Live & Loud: Live At Pier 48, Seattle, Washington – December 13, 1993 01. Radio Friendly Unit Shifter*02. Drain You*03. Breed*04. Serve The Servants*05. Rape Me*06. Sliver07. Pennyroyal Tea*08. Scentless Apprentice*09. All Apologies10. Heart-Shaped Box*11. Blew12. The Man Who Sold The World13. School14. Come As You Are15. Lithium*16. About a Girl17. Endless, Nameless* Extras: 18. Very Ape (Live & Loud Rehearsal)19. Radio Friendly Unit Shifter (Live & Loud Rehearsal)20. Rape Me (Live & Loud Rehearsal)21. Pennyroyal Tea (Live & Loud Rehearsal)22. Heart-Shaped Box (Original Music Video + Director's Cut)23. Rape Me (Live on "Nulle Part Ailleurs" - Paris, France)24. Pennyroyal Tea (Live on "Nulle Part Ailleurs" - Paris, France)25. Drain You (Live on "Nulle Part Ailleurs" - Paris, France)26. Serve The Servants (Live on "Tunnel" - Rome, Italy)27. Radio Friendly Unit Shifter (Live in Munich, Germany)28. My Best Friend's Girl (Live in Munich, Germany)29. Drain You (Live in Munich, Germany) Deluxe Edition - 2CDs 20th-Anniversary 2CD Deluxe Edition featuring the original album remastered at Abbey Road Studios plus never-before-heard demos, mixes, B-sides and bonus tracks from the original album release. CD One - Original album and bonus tracks remasteredCD Two - 2013 album mix plus pre-album demos Deluxe Edition - Vinyl (Original Album & Bonus Tracks on 3LPs) 20th-Anniversary 3LP Edition featuring the original album remastered at Abbey Road Studios on 2LPs and for the first time available at high-fidelity 45 RPM, plus a 33 1/3 RPM LP of all the remastered B-sides, never-before-heard original mixes and bonus tracks from the original album release. All 3LPS are on 180 gram vinyl. Original Album Mix Remastered (1CD) 20th Anniversary Edition of the original album remastered at Abbey Road studios in 2013. DVD - Live & Loud The complete "Live and Loud" show from Seattle's Pier 48 on December 13, 1993 plus over 35 minutes of never-before-released bonus material. Digital Formats: Super Deluxe AudioDeluxe AudioOriginal Album RemasteredLive & Loud: Longform Digital Video and Streaming/Rental Outlets Read more at http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/nirvana-complete-in-utero-20th-anniversary-reissue-details-revealed/#8eGD3jQGEUpewlir.99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 So the 3xLP is Disc 1. Decent. Hopefully Live and Loud is pressed at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrom92 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Do the audiophiles consider the original MoFi label way better than its current incarnation? Actually the other way around... There's practically no original MFSL releases worth owning, original pressings were better sounding, for many reasons, although they were pressed on much higher quality virgin vinyl than the standard LP of that era. The "new" MOFI has been churning out nothing but perfect reissues and I wouldn't hesitate to buy any of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrom92 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 If they're taking the time to remaster this at 45 and at abbey road then I would expect them to actually put some care into the SQ and maybe even cut it from the masters, but then again the majors have made greater mistakes. I'll wait for reviews, till then I'm very pleased with my cream colored ORG. With that said, I am ALL FOR 45 rpm nirvana reissues... Incesticide was excellently done. Would love to see Nevermind receive the same treatment. If done well id gladly give up my colored ORGs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deletedunknown Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 I don't know how anybody would expect they could master it "better" in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrom92 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 I don't know how anybody would expect they could master it "better" in the first place. On any mastering job, there's always room for improvement in some respect. See: all the titles that have been remastered 20+ times In Utero got a stellar remaster only a few years back by ORG, but if they can improve upon it with the 45 treatment (as opposed to degrading it like the deluxe Nevermind) then I am all for it. We need a remaster of In Utero much more than we need another round of Billy Joel half-speeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxv Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Liner notes by Bobcat Golthwait. Because you know nothing tops off a top-notch deluxe overpriced reissue package like liner notes from a washed up comedian. mrrom92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbrh2001 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Hopefully we will get 24 bit FLAC files of this entire release. mrrom92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexH. Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Liner notes by Bobcat Golthwait. Because you know nothing tops off a top-notch deluxe overpriced reissue package like liner notes from a washed up comedian.Bobcat is awesome. He's written and directed a few things in the last few years, including World's Greatest Dad and God Bless America, both super bleak super good black comedies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackholexxxx Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Liner notes by Bobcat Golthwait. Because you know nothing tops off a top-notch deluxe overpriced reissue package like liner notes from a washed up comedian. He used to tour with Nirvana. Maybe he has some good stories/insight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochambo Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Great hour plus interview with Albini about the 20th Anniversary version http://vishkhanna.com/2013/08/16/ep-24-steve-albini/ I wouldn't be surprised if an interview pops up with Krist Novoselic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deletedunknown Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 http://vishkhanna.com/2013/08/16/ep-24-steve-albini/ That's a good listen and I think Albini speaks to my general misgivings with remixing/mastering outside of the original artistic intent. Good to hear he's worked on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robobob Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Thanks for the link. That was a long but interesting interview. I'm finding myself leaning more towards grabbing this re-issue after hearing Albini talk about the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j67ab Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 I listened to the podcast as well. They have my money, and it sounds like Albini was talking up the copper master and all of the alternate takes that they did. It sounded incredibly interesting. Don't listen to the podcast if you don't want to end up wanting this. I have the ORG issue as well as the Gold MoFi CD and I can't wait for this. Cool about a new Bottomless Pit album too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 I was looking forward to this, but now I'm pretty excited for it after listing to that interview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrom92 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Oh man, gotta give that a listen. From what little of that interview has been posted here, I'm guessing they chose Abbey Road for their vms-82 lathe. I've heard both good and bad DMM, but I've never heard a 45 rpm dmm LP. I'm still gonna wait for some kind of confirmation that this was cut from tape (not sure if this was touched upon in the interview) but this should really end up sounding REALLY damn good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 It was cut from the original tape. He says so in the interview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbrh2001 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 It was cut from the original tape. He says so in the interview. Done deal, Ill be snagging this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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