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43 minutes ago, drds89 said:
Merry Christmas @unknown pleasures!
*Two*180 gm with printed inners - no seam splits - nor the outer jacket either. Caspian, On Circles and Ringo Deathstarr: ST (see below)
The 2 other 180 gm had generic inner sleeves. Previous years, I checked about a dozen including some 200 gm represses from Steven Wilson, and no generic inners were split, but the regular stock and thin glossy paper inner sleeves, most had some splits (some more than others) -- no matter the weight of record. I remember trying to find copies of ITTCT: Red Forest on Science of Silence in 2012 without inner sleeve splits, and I went through a lot of copies to cull out the 10%. They were not 180 gm, were shipped sealed to SoS, who then openend them and shipped outside the jacket. There were a significant number of outer jacket seam splits, too. That was the turning point for me about either imploding or accepting this is part of vinyl collecting. That being said, I'll do everything possible to ship a record without issues to remain that way upon reaching its destination.
I remember one label was so paranoid from frequent returns, they shipped the vinyl bare naked to slip and slide all around, so the jacket and inners remained as they received them from the plant. Can't remember which album or label it was but I almost $hit my pants opening up that mailer.
I stand corrected!
Those do look like some pretty heavy stock inners from what I can tell in the photos. I think labels have at least gotten better than that, I know records from the 80s/90s/00s had some really thin inners, sometimes no thicker than a regular sheet of printer paper.
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11 hours ago, jmpatrick said:
Seam splits dramatically increased with the popularity of fucking 180 gram vinyl. I hate that shit. No need for it other than to jack up the cost on the manufacturing end as well as for the end user. There's zero sonic benefit. I laugh when a store expects you to accept a record that arrives with seam splits and keep your mouth shut. They don't consider it damaged when it's going from their hands to yours...but when you walk in to sell a record with a seam split jacket then they're sure as fuck going to ding you for it. It's bullshit. Seam splits on the jackets and inner sleeves are damaged product. End of story.
I refuse to believe a 180 gram record without a split inner sleeve exists.
Never seen one. Never will.
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Don’t think it’s really anything new, probably just more people buying records through the mail as the years go by.
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6 minutes ago, Tidal Wave said:
anyone want to explain this one either?
Lysol is highly in demand in these hard times.
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11 minutes ago, V3XED said:
oof, thats getting mighty steep.
Maybe I can still get that lot of 4 trash cans...
I’m hoping for a huge twist where the trash cans are full of Victory test pressings and trunk is full of jars of cat piss.
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22 minutes ago, Tidal Wave said:
I don’t know. The two people that actually went there haven’t bid.
Some of the boxes could legitimately be empty.
I don’t think it’s anyone commenting on bidding, I just think the thread has brought the auction attention from people who’d otherwise never have known about it.
There’s a lot more people who read this board than just “the regulars”...
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The attention from this thread alone is probably doubling the price.
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22 minutes ago, WolfGangnamStyle said:
Anyone else still waiting for this to ship? I ordered the yellow vinyl bundle with the "4th Haim Sister" shirt in June. Keeping my fingers crossed it finally ships before the year ends.
I had to hound them three times via their online ticketing system (the first couple of tries you keep getting general COVID-related messages about how busy they are and asked to read the FAQs) but when I finally got escalated to a real support person my order - which had been in limbo for months like yours - shipped the next day.
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Always warms my heart to see the more limited variants held back until after the initial release sells out, ensuring a lot of fans end up buying multiple copies...
'Tis the season.
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16 minutes ago, bgdesign said:
Reckless doesn’t keep real-time inventory so I’m assuming this is long sold out and a lot of folks are going to see cancellations.
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11 minutes ago, nothingnatural said:
If anyone gets a line on Elliott Smith, let me know. Had my order cancelled by multiple places.
There has been a steady stream posted on Discogs from various places all day, all for around retail.
Just keep an eye on there and I’m sure you’ll get one.
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Lockdown-wise, things are almost as bad now as when the original RSD 2020 needed to be postponed (and eventually split up).
Man, they really couldn’t have picked worse timing for their two big annual events...
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41 minutes ago, Portsi said:
Season Of Mist now has a splatter limited to 300 :D.
https://shop.season-of-mist.com/cult-of-luna-the-raging-river-lp-gatefold-coloured-clear-103272
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28 minutes ago, twatay said:
I now regret not clicking on this thread sooner
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On 10/27/2020 at 3:40 PM, timsimmons said:
Which is great except I think all but 1 or 2 states are closed for registration (according to the poster, at least)..
Wouldn’t really be a Frank Ocean mail out if it didn’t arrive late...
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4 minutes ago, illkeepyouinmind said:
I really like that they have that policy enforced. Flippers suck, this gives real fans a chance to get a copy.
It makes me wonder how many copies some people were buying of a hyped release like this.
I feel like in the old days, this would have sold out in under 30 minutes - an hour tops. That must mean there were probably people buying 5+ copies if you try to work back from the current rate of sales.
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It’s incredible what a “1 per household” policy does to keep these up a little longer and give more people a chance without resorting to flippers.
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I dunno, maybe this is an original "90s" Sub Pop sticker... but even if it is, $188 is a lot of bones for something that's basically identical to something they still throw in for free with pretty much any online order to this day:
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4 hours ago, Shelby American said:
I'm not sure where you're counting but ebay shows 46 copies sold for me. Yeah there's more listed but thats not part of their statistic.
Even 60 is 6% of 1,000 so it's a huge stretch to throw that number out there and say "yeah so at least 20% were flipped". Thats 140 more copies, discogs currently shows 8 sales.
I don’t really have the time to work out the numbers so I’ll take you at face value and agree if you think the 5% figure they give us is accurate, but it would be unfair to only include sold copies and not those still for sale priced over retail as they technically take away from the pool of copies available to the public at retail.
Each of those represent a copy taken off a wall or out of a bin in some retail environment and being offered for sale at a markup.
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8 hours ago, Roandy55 said:
Looking at the FAQ's, there are a lot there relating to availability and resale. I think this could be a deliberate UK policy to try and counteract the activities of flippers.
https://recordstoreday.co.uk/about-rsd/faqs/
Would love to know where they got this figure:
QuoteOur research also tells us that more than 95% of all product makes its way into legitimate fans hands and is not sold via eBay.
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I only come here for the ads.
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Sleeve City is great:
https://www.sleevecityusa.com/record-jackets-s/1830.htm
Bags Unlimited is pretty good, too.
Some of the Amazon sellers can provide good products, but quality varies there so I tend to avoid them.
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Random Vinyl Shipping Rant: Split Seams
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Totally disagree with this! PROVE ME WRONG, buddy...