museummouth Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 So I've been seeing this happen so often on ebay (mostly with Title Fight stuff) where people bid things up to way above average selling prices and then never pay. I know this because a lot of decently rare stuff ends up relisted a few days after it ends. This person had the balls to call people out on it in their description: http://www.ebay.com/itm/351076331768?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT What's everyone's thoughts on this. It fucks up popsike listings too. I know my local shop uses popsike to price stuff, and these auctions that actually didn't end at these prices end up inflated the real prices. I know this is wordy and convoluted but it's just getting annoying. This and I've been trying to sell a TF 7" and just tonight I've had 5-6 people be like "can you hold it for me for like a week or two so I can get the money." Anyone have any stories? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeTerrain Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 if you think there is going to be a death in the family, illness or car accidents, please dont bid!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinShishko Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 I always assume it's younger teens impulsively raising their bids as the auction winds down and panicking when they learn they actually won and don't have the money for it. if it's anything other than that then they're just dicks. the only time I think it's acceptable to put in bullshit bids on an item is when someone is noticeably trying to flip a record. create a new account, bid that shit way up, make the seller think they're getting way more than it's worth, and piss them off by not paying and then the negative feedback doesn't matter. assuming 0 feedback users aren't blocked. as petty as it sounds I'd get a kick out of ruining someone's auction if I was part of a label/band and saw my records being sold to take advantage of someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticgoat Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 It's pretty bullshit. No one wins from false bidding, the seller and actual bidders have their time wasted, and if you're making the fake bids then there's probably something better you could be doing to waste your time. Also, I don't understand why people feel the need to place a ton of bids on auctions that still have like 6 days left before it ends. In the end the most annoying aspect of it is the artificial inflation of the price of the record. Some guy sees a record he has go for a lot and then puts his up for a buy-it-now of a similar price. And eventually everyone on Ebay and Discogs thinks a record is worth three times it's actual worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museummouth Posted May 28, 2014 Author Share Posted May 28, 2014 I always assume it's younger teens impulsively raising their bids as the auction winds down and panicking when they learn they actually won and don't have the money for it. if it's anything other than that then they're just dicks. the only time I think it's acceptable to put in bullshit bids on an item is when someone is noticeably trying to flip a record. create a new account, bid that shit way up, make the seller think they're getting way more than it's worth, and piss them off by not paying and then the negative feedback doesn't matter. assuming 0 feedback users aren't blocked. as petty as it sounds I'd get a kick out of ruining someone's auction if I was part of a label/band and saw my records being sold to take advantage of someone else. I agree with this 100% pal. It's just extremely difficult when I start something at 99 cents because I need some cash for a bill, or school books, and someone bids it up to 89 dollars & then doesn't pay It screws me over, and other people who actually want the record when someone lists it the next day for buy it now $90.00 "because the last one went for 89." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Hundred Fifty-Two Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Don't collect title fight records. agaetisbyrjun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Buyer: chris31954 ( 139) No longer a registered user this dude bought a handful opf 7" records from me on ebay, then tried to backout of the only one that sold for more than $9, which was a $33 title fight 7". I wish I still had the message from him in 2010, he was all "i didnt think it'd sell for that much, can I not pay for it?" and I told him no, that he was going to pay for it because he put that bid in and I was not going to feel sorry for him. he left this positive feedback item was in great shape but was not pleased with the reversal process attempt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nancy_raygun Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 eBay is where you go to wait around a long time to make impulse purchases Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laralaurent Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 This isn't vinyl related but I once had a bidder do that to me, for a 30 dollar purse. Proceeded to tell me that paying is not a problem because she buys many things weekly, but they just needed their husband's permission to pay for it and "as a woman I should understand lol." Then told me she wanted me to cancel the transaction like other sellers did for her before. Did not. Then she gave me positive feedback for the item in an attempt to sway me. Eventually paid for that shit after I opened a case. Gave her scathing feedback in return after I got dat $$$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horrorbusiness138 Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 if you think there is going to be a death in the family, illness or car accidents, please dont bid!!!!! Best eBay description I've possibly ever read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFP Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 This isn't vinyl related but I once had a bidder do that to me, for a 30 dollar purse. Proceeded to tell me that paying is not a problem because she buys many things weekly, but they just needed their husband's permission to pay for it and "as a woman I should understand lol." Then told me she wanted me to cancel the transaction like other sellers did for her before. Did not. Then she gave me positive feedback for the item in an attempt to sway me. Eventually paid for that shit after I opened a case. Gave her scathing feedback in return after I got dat $$$$ I just have to say I LOOOOVE Heavyweights!!!! Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradedOnACurve Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Lots of opinions about this subject here. This guy liked Title Fight records too. http://boards.vinylcollective.com/topic/53857-re-musicinveins11-rip-off-artist/ It's locked for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somethingvinyl Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Edit:Wasn't there a Title Fight that ended up at 50K or something? I think it's humorous when people flipping limited shit get shill bids to that near amount. But I do honestly see why it's frustrating. People shouldn't care so much about what others do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somethingvinyl Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Funny:http://www.collectorsfrenzy.com/details/110967761541/Title_Fight_Floral_Green_Record_Release_10_19_12_No_Name_Blank__45150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steventangent Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 What do I think about bullshit bids? I think they're bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maneatingcow Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 I've actually had the most issues with people needing time to come up with the money for cheap 3 and 4 dollar records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nancy_raygun Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 I've actually had the most issues with people needing time to come up with the money for cheap 3 and 4 dollar records. It's these people that have also been the ones to nitpick any issue with the record. The only people who have ever returned a record to me have been the ones who paid more for shipping than the item. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QUA1L Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 It's irritating to the say the least. It's a waste of everbody's time. It's the one reason I wish eBay still allowed negative feedback to be left from sellers to the buyers. museummouth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museummouth Posted May 29, 2014 Author Share Posted May 29, 2014 It's irritating to the say the least. It's a waste of everbody's time. It's the one reason I wish eBay still allowed negative feedback to be left from sellers to the buyers. I know! I miss that. They definitely need to allow that again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBarry Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 FOR SOME REASON, HARDCORE, SXE, PUNK KIDS SEEM TO BE THE MOST DIFFICULT TO DEAL WITH Yup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horrorbusiness138 Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 I know! I miss that. They definitely need to allow that again indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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