jack8urt0n Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 The dude sent me an email today asking me to please stop "bashing" the campaign publicly, but he still has been unable to issue a refund. Does that mean the dude is on this forum and reading this thread? Well, this would be the right place to give all your supporters an update. niblips 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Mike Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Does that mean the dude is on this forum and reading this thread? Well, this would be the right place to give all your supporters an update. It was because I was tweeting about it, and on the shorebird facebook page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyfranciosa Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 So there was an update on this back in Dec that promised updates and confirmations of what packages were coming after the holiday. I guess that was expecting too much. This is never happening right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I thought they said by the end of Jan. I'm sure something will happen at some point. But I'm guessing the original packages won't happen and it will be some variation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyfranciosa Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 just re-read the e-mail - they said 100% within the month of Jan., so yeah they've got a week. I'll probably be canceling if they pull the Molina package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Yeah, this whole thing is a mess. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt because shit happens and it takes time to sort stuff out (there could even be legal stuff for all we know - and they can't comment on it). And i'm sure its made even harder when the campaign was basically a flop. I get the impression they are sincere about rewarding the contributors, but they should be a little more communicative. I hope they follow through with at least the music portions even if they have to stray from the variant colors or whatever. Or hopefully they just press the original quantities and sell online the rest to make more money for the campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack8urt0n Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 hopefully they just press the original quantities and sell online the rest to make more money for the campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmartinxx Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I'd love to buy a copy of the Kozelek and Volcano Choir records, but I didn't bother to fund this campaign because it seemed like it was never going to get off the ground. I'm hoping I'm wrong, but I think I was right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 We hope this email finds everybody doing well. Unfortunately, this project is taking much longer than we had anticipated. There were many delays that were unforeseen and much red tape that we are still navigating through. The good news is that Project Carousel is definitely moving forward and when all is said and done, it will be an amazing project. The bad news is that it will be some time before the project is completed. The project will also be different than what we had originally thought it was going to be, and not every artist will be involved - and there will be new artists involved as well. Realistically, we are probably 1-2 months ways from being able to announce what the final project will be at this point and what artists will be involved - old and new. And from there, we are looking at being able to announce when it will actually be completed and ready to release. As mentioned in our recent email updates, this project is a labor of love and we appreciate your support. We would be most grateful for those of you that want to stay in on this - for those that do: 1. All indiegogo backers will receive additional perks for hanging on with us through these delays. 2. We will also be sending out an extra vinyl gift to all backers from Shorebird within the next few weeks. For those of you that do not want to stay in, please email me directly with your info and pledge and I will contact you about a refund. If you have any questions that I can answer at any time, please feel free to email me at [email protected] Thanks again and we apologize again for these delays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Kinda disappointed they didn't have the music locked down before they announced the project at the beginning. They should at least say who backed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyfranciosa Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 lol. I'm out... what a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I'm sure Molina is the only music still being used (its not like he can pull out). I'm guessing Kozelek and Vernon pulled out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warhenrecords Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Yeah fuck that. I waited this long, but even with that update, there's still nothing on the horizon. Just emailed and told them to refund me immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyfranciosa Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I wanted the Molina records, but at this point I'm so annoyed that I'm getting my money back if they offer. No way they are going to complete the work on the carousel they were intending when they first launched this anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Crosley Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Part of my problem with this all along is that I don't really think anyone who pledged actually cared about the restoration of an old carousel. in fact, I give to a few charities, and none of them ever have to do with fixing circus shit that isn't even in my country. Honestly, even if this was a benefit for TBA I'd be more into it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamBGraham Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Yeah, let's be honest. When I saw this come up, it was basically a "crowd fund this Carousel-inspired Mark Kozelek record" campaign. I almost get the feeling that they're delaying longer with the intended effect being that people voluntarily back out instead of hanging on. I wonder how many of the original orders have already been refunded. jack8urt0n 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toomanyrecords Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Gonna hold on til they announce the project's new state and if it sucks, ask for a refund then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Yeah, let's be honest. When I saw this come up, it was basically a "crowd fund this Carousel-inspired Mark Kozelek record" campaign. This x 1000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratbrain Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 That's what all fundraisers are. You think I really care about PBS? I just want that sick tote bag. esbe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btelg Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Gonna hold on til they announce the project's new state and if it sucks, ask for a refund then. right there with you on that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Mike Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Good luck getting a refund. It took me 2 months of constant contact by email and harassment by twitter and facebook for the guy to refund me. And there are many others out there who have asked for refunds and not received them. If you really want to get this guy's attention tweet to @weareshorebird asking about your money and include @secretlycndian and @thebedouin and @indiegogo. He hates that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple_torture Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 For what it's worth, someone on the official Molina forum got this response from Shorebird yesterday: Hi. I am waiting on management / legal to approve our final update (I can't send without their approval) - which should go up early next week (and all and any refunds will follow). Thanks for your patience. I wish I could do more right now but I've been waiting as well. The organizers have missed these soft deadlines ("update coming next week!") throughout the project, so I don't think we should get our hopes up. But, hey, it's something! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Mike Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 For what it's worth, someone on the official Molina forum got this response from Shorebird yesterday: The organizers have missed these soft deadlines ("update coming next week!") throughout the project, so I don't think we should get our hopes up. But, hey, it's something! The dude used that line on me multiple times months ago when I was trying to get a refund. There is only one dude left on this project, David Silva, and he is 100% full of shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple_torture Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Having worked in mailorder before, I've tried my absolute hardest to have sympathy for this situation--this guy didn't get anywhere close to the money he was looking for, and he's still trying to get the product into people's hands. It certainly seems like he hasn't had much experience with a release of this magnitude or with dealing with such rabid fanbases, and things haven't gone according to plan. In the end, it was only $50 that I sent his way, and that's not going to make or break me--I'll either get the records I ordered (someday) or I'll get a refund (someday)--it'll all come out in the wash in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratbrain Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 I felt for the guy at first since he obviously bit off way more than he could chew, but it's hard to have sympathy when he's completely fumbled the project at every turn. At this point, it feels like he's just lying low and coming up with different stopgaps to buy himself more time since he knows nobody really has any recourse here, Indiegogo doesn't care -- they already got their cut -- and the longer he can string everyone along, the more people will forget about it or just get tired of chasing him. His failure to respond to people and the vanishing act "Shorebird" has pulled on all its social media accounts doesn't look great either. Rev. Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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