thieves Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 consider doing a one-sided 12" a long (anything over 10 minutes, really) 7" is prone to: -surface noise -skating -increased susceptibility to wow/more pronounced warble when and if the record warps you could be doing a one-sided 12", which at 45, could easily hold 12+ minutes, and could hold almost twice that at 33. you'd only have to pay half the normal cutting/plating costs. the per record pressing price will be higher, but the amount saved on lacquers and stampers should offset that for any run 500 or less. for runs over that many, you just have the increased fidelity of a 12", but i'd say it's well worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thieves Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 there's a lot of complaining i could do on here that i don't because i don't want to call out any clients (several post here) but the whole cramming tons of music onto a 7" thing is one of my biggest pet peeves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runforcover Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 What is your company? Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactusbot Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 He works for Gotta Groove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smailtronic Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Is this the part of the thread where we start guessing who you're talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thieves Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 it's just that i've done the numbers, and a one-sided 12" is just plain cheaper and better in most situations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradedOnACurve Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 ^ I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Yea Id MUCH rather have a 1-sided 12" than a 7" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circuit bored records Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Yea Id MUCH rather have a 1-sided 12" than a 7" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derkwithano Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Yea Id MUCH rather have a 1-sided 12" than a 7" I read this as sarcasm haha. I agree though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 No sarcasm, Im not a big fan of 7"s at all. Id always prefer a 12" over a 7". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thieves Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 (dick joke) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 hahaha I didnt even realize how I worded that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flood Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 1 sided twelves are generally a good deal more expensive than 7".. you still need to pay for blank stampers, the large jump in packaging difference, and the much higher per unit cost on the records themselves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgato48 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 I dont know about all you but I'd take nice full 10 inch any day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarirec Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 No sarcasm, Im not a big fan of 7"s at all. Id always prefer a 12" over a 7". same with Travis... not a fan of 7 inches really. i'll purchase a 12"...or a 10" for that matter any day over a 7". for instance, SST has pressed several 7"s on 10" format... such as Minutemen's Paranoid Time.... I'll put out the extra dolares for them 10 inches. my 7" collection is rather... minute, in comparison to my 12"s.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patron Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 I guessing he's talking about the new Joyce Manor record. That thing should have been a 2xLP. Gotta let those grooves breathe man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derkwithano Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 I prefer the 12" treatment too because A - it sounds better because you can press it at 45, and B - also, you don't have to flip after 2 songs! But why does this guy think that pressing a 12" is cheaper than pressing a 7"? I know you'd only have to worry about plates and everything for 1 side instead of 2, but still. Confusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donlombardo Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 also, shipping rates goes up when sending abroad. a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtz Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 1 sided 12"s are the worst. They usually cost the same as a normal LP for half the music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Hundred Fifty-Two Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Thread is not punk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jailhouse Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Well you only have to pay for one side of mastering, and plating is only one side also, that cuts your setup cost in half. Seems like it equals out and a one sided LP ends up being only a tad bit more than a double sided 7". But yeah the packaging and shipping cost's I guess kind of void out the saved money. I was curious how a 1 sided 10 or 12 would be recieved. I have a 10.5 minute record, me and a band have been pondering whether to cut one of the 2 minute tracks off, and doing a 7" at 4:30 or so per side, or doing a one sided LP. I know how picky people are nowdays, and whether they would feel jipped by having a blank side. But's it's also a metal record, and 10 minutes on a 45 12" would be nice and loud! As opposed to a quieter 7". But yeah, jesus christ, 12 minutes per side on a 7"! I can't imagin that sounds much better than a flexi or something. I can imagine the needle just skating across the side, with such thin grooves. nuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ene Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 consider doing a one-sided 12"a long (anything over 10 minutes, really) 7" is prone to: -surface noise -skating -increased susceptibility to wow/more pronounced warble when and if the record warps you could be doing a one-sided 12", which at 45, could easily hold 12+ minutes, and could hold almost twice that at 33. you'd only have to pay half the normal cutting/plating costs. the per record pressing price will be higher, but the amount saved on lacquers and stampers should offset that for any run 500 or less. for runs over that many, you just have the increased fidelity of a 12", but i'd say it's well worth it. first of all, you arent taking into account all the other costs associated with a 12" vs. a 7". everything is a lot more expensive, the jackets, shipping, etc. next, the fidelity issue is only going to matter with certain kinds of music where that kind of thing actually matters. the solution is for the band to cut a song or two. not to press it on a stupid one sided 12" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tankerdesk Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 yeah but if you release a one sided 12" you can charge double digits for it, but with a 7" there is a bit of a price ceiling. yay money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvio Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 lots of artistic potential for that blank side as well if you are doing small runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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