thefinalsound Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 This might make life easier when trying to recommend adequate budget turntables to noobs: http://www.analogplanet.com/content/pro-jects-199-crosley-killer Someone needs to put that mat on an ironing board though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntitledRecords Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Looks interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troymess Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Interesting...would like to read some reviews. I wonder which Ortofon cartridge comes with this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinch Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Hmm, by the (conservatively described) specs it seems less interesting than the U-Turn Orbit. Though pro-ject has a background, while u-turn is so far slightly more than a college idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Probably OMe5 cartridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearchuck Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I don't love fixed counterweight. I know they're going for ease-of-use and aiming this turntable toward the average novice consumer, but is an adjustable counterweight really that complicated? This basically locks you into the Ortofon cartridge forever. Otherwise, I dig that Pro-Ject has stepped up and is trying to offer quality budget table for newbies. $199 still seems high if you're trying to compete with Crosleys though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinch Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I don't think they opted for the fixed weight because it's cheaper to make, but because they believe buyers of the "elemental" would find an adjustable one nothing but a hassle. From what I found it's also only aimed at the US market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannibal Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I can't believe people are interested in this. It looks downright terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I can't believe people are interested in this. It looks downright terrible. because it's going to sound like it looks, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefinalsound Posted May 17, 2013 Author Share Posted May 17, 2013 I can't believe people are interested in this. It looks downright terrible. Kannibal, no one who has commented on this thread is actually interested in this as something to buy for themselves, just like you aren't. What we are all interested in is a company who makes serious turntables bringing their knowledge and supply chain/manufacturing capabilities to bear on the problem of producing a decent budget turntable. Not decent for people like you or me who are serious enough to warrant at least a Carbon or RP3, but decent for people who are starting from scratch and can afford nothing more than $200 for this component. It's interesting because it's cheap enough that we might be able to sway beginners away from the Crossley's and ATLP60's that plague us all. How good it works and sounds is yet to be seen, but if it is able to not ruin records and sound decent then this is a victory for everyone. Whenever people show up and start "what table for $200" threads it's difficult to recommend anything new in that price range. If this is passable we now have a quick solution. lexicondevil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannibal Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Kannibal, no one who has commented on this thread is actually interested in this as something to buy for themselves, just like you aren't. What we are all interested in is a company who makes serious turntables bringing their knowledge and supply chain/manufacturing capabilities to bear on the problem of producing a decent budget turntable. Not decent for people like you or me who are serious enough to warrant at least a Carbon or RP3, but decent for people who are starting from scratch and can afford nothing more than $200 for this component. It's interesting because it's cheap enough that we might be able to sway beginners away from the Crossley's and ATLP60's that plague us all. How good it works and sounds is yet to be seen, but if it is able to not ruin records and sound decent then this is a victory for everyone. Whenever people show up and start "what table for $200" threads it's difficult to recommend anything new in that price range. If this is passable we now have a quick solution. Yeah, I know, I read through the thread. I'm not sold. I'd say something positive to end my thought, like, to each his own, but some of us know what happened last time I wished someone well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 GOD YOU ARE SUCH A DICK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swemoll Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 KANNIBAL JUST NEEDS TO GIVE UP AND DIE. But seriously, that was a pretty sweet response by thefinalsound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmartinxx Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 The U-Turn Orbit appears to be more flexible than this and is $50 cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinch Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I just remembered where I saw the "design" before: Obviously worlds appart, but still, cannot get into the "platter on a stick" look. The closest one I could live with is the Kuzma Stabi S: thefinalsound 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Quik Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I can't believe people are interested in this. It looks downright terrible. thefinalsound 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannibal Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I don't play WoW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Stop lying. We do quests every weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannibal Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Stop lying. We do quests every weekend. The quest, "Hide the salami" is in no way related to WoW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upplegus Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 I agree that this may not be the turntable for people here but what I read was that Project wants to try to sell this at Best Buy and Target stores. I've read where its called the "Crosley Killer" to try to get folks away from the ceramic cartridges that can really mess up records. I support a return of decent "mid range" turntables, I think it will be the way vinyl will continue to grow. I'm wondering how Project is going to try to grt people who might buy a turntable at Target to pass up the $75.00 model for there $199 model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upplegus Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 The U-Turn Orbit appears to be more flexible than this and is $50 cheaper.. I just hope the U turn comes through. Unless I've missed something they have not posted anything online since March. They said the turntables that people bought during their campaign were cheaper than what they would finally be when there came out retail. I've been waiting for some news, any news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vool Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Excuse my ignorance, but WTF is that?? (seriously!) On topic: I think the idea of offering a low-budget TT is a great for a well-respected company such as Pro-Ject. I'm using a Pro-Ject myself and I love it! Regarding the fact that vinyl is enjoying a huge revival, this is one of the things company have to do in order to attract new customers (who don't want to spend huge amounts on a "starter-kit"; which is absolutely rational!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinch Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Excuse my ignorance, but WTF is that?? (seriously!) An AVID Ingenium. This is a model with two tonearm bases, one for a 9" and one for a 12" arm. The single tonearm version retails for around 900 EUR without the arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swemoll Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 I agree that this may not be the turntable for people here but what I read was that Project wants to try to sell this at Best Buy and Target stores. I've read where its called the "Crosley Killer" to try to get folks away from the ceramic cartridges that can really mess up records. I support a return of decent "mid range" turntables, I think it will be the way vinyl will continue to grow. I'm wondering how Project is going to try to grt people who might buy a turntable at Target to pass up the $75.00 model for there $199 model. I think you and I have very different ideas of what a "mid range" turntable is. upplegus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vool Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 An AVID Ingenium. This is a model with two tonearm bases, one for a 9" and one for a 12" arm. The single tonearm version retails for around 900 EUR without the arm. Thanks for the info. I'm stupid...why do you need more than one tonearm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.